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Star Trek: The Post-Atomic Horror, Explained

If someone is offered the chance to pick a fictional future, the one portrayed in Star Trek may be the ideal choice. It's a reality free from poverty and want. While the grim reality of the modern day sees hundreds of millions suffer under the whim of the ultrarich, Star Trek imagines the impossible new heights we could reach if only a handful of people didn't own everything. Of course, the path to the ideal future involved a miserable transitionary period called the post-atomic horror.

Star Trek is usually as far as science fiction can get from the military sci-fi subgenre . It isn't interested in power-armored soldiers throwing themselves in waves at an all-consuming foe. It and Warhammer or Starship Troopers should sit at the opposite poles of the genre. However, more modern iterations frequently turn their attention to the massive space battles for more straightforward entertainment. Classic Star Trek frequently dealt with war by exploring the aftershocks instead of the attacks themselves.

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What caused the post-atomic horror?

The post-atomic horror is the period of nightmarish species-wide distress that followed World War III. Star Trek's history is a little messy when it comes to World War III . It has three conflicts that could conceivably lay claim to the title, but only one that earns it as its primary moniker. The Third World War likely emerged out of a series of other escalating conflicts. The Eugenics War saw humanity battle elevated humans for the fate of the Earth. The United States also enjoyed a massive military clash in the form of the Second Civil War. These events embodied or led up to the Third World War. In any case, humanity reached a point of advanced warfare. Most Earth governments controlled their soldiers with powerful narcotics that enabled them to fight as empowered drones. The Eastern Coalition and the United States of America were two of the many potential superpowers involved. They exchanged nuclear bombs in several waves of conflict. Washington D.C., Paris, New York City, and several other famous settlements succumbed to destructive bombing campaigns. At least 30% of humanity lost their lives. The survivors did not get off easily.

How did humanity respond to World War III?

World War III ended in 2053, after 27 years of bloody violence and nuclear exchange. There's no point-by-point timeline available in the franchise, so the events remain mostly speculative. Anything could have happened during the mysterious global conflict. The sudden deaths of at least a third of the people on Earth caused endless problems. Huge populations died in the nuclear bombings. At least 600,000 species of plants and animals went extinct during the war. The conflict erased several governments, leaving much of society without the systems it once relied upon. These elements combined to give the survivors an overwhelming famine. Radiation poisoned most of the natural resources. It also wreaked havoc on the population, causing sickness around the world. Figures from the war arose to make things worse.

Colonel Phillip Green led a large and heavily armed faction of ecoterrorists who may have started World War III. Their faction earned an undue amount of screentime if they didn't play a part in the early conflict. Green's unnamed army perpetrated various war crimes during World War III, but they didn't go away after the dust settled. Green raised his forces yet again, only three years after the cease-fire that stopped the war. He took advantage of the resource crunch, lack of governance, and widespread chaos to strike. Green and his soldiers killed hundreds of thousands of survivors afflicted with radiation poisoning . He justified his actions by claiming they would prevent the generational spread of the disease. Green would become a controversial figure. His unquestionably violent actions killed millions during and after the war, but the absence of radiation sickness appealed to some as a suitable end.

What ended the post-atomic horror?

Human societies rose out of the horror at different times. Over 40 years after the war ended, several cultures remained under martial law or regressed into barbarism. Some continued that path into the 22nd century. However, most of Earth turned around thanks to the most momentous occasion in human history. Zefram Cochrane and his team of elite engineers developed humanity's first warp drive . With it, they developed the Phoenix , humanity's first warp ship. This drew the attention of a passing Vulcan ship, drawing them to Earth for first contact. All at once, not even a decade after World War III, humanity learned of the galactic community and a potential place within it. Humans solved disease, war, hunger, and poverty over the next century. The people of Earth forged a unified world government and paved the way for the Federation of Planets .

The post-atomic horror is a tale of human resiliency in the face of nightmarish circumstances. World War III is a story of the same species' capacity for evil. After humanity nearly wiped itself off the planet, they suffered through years of consequences. The aftermath only came through humanity's other gift. We invented our way out of the hole, impressed another species , and quickly turned our act around. The future of Star Trek didn't need an apocalyptic war, but it did need humans willing to run things the right way.

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Post-Atomic Horror

The Post-Atomic Horror was a period in Earth history following the end of World War III in the year 2053 , and running through the following decades . This period was marked by a breakdown in civil society and government and the denial of rights to alleged criminals .

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History and specifics [ ]

This period lasted at least through 2079 , a year depicted by Q when he put Captain Jean-Luc Picard on trial for humanity 's savagery. ( TNG episode : " Encounter at Farpoint ")

New Orleans was affected by the Post-Atomic Horror. ( ST - Typhon Pact novel : Rough Beasts of Empire )

Earth had emerged from this period by the early 22nd century , thanks to the assistance of the Vulcans , who made first contact with humanity during this period, in 2063 . ( TNG movie : Star Trek: First Contact ; Star Trek: Myriad Universes novel : A Less Perfect Union )

It was believed by some latter era historians that the Post-Atomic Horror helped breed a more enlightened humanity, and was necessary for their eventual development into a responsible species. ( TOS novel : Captain's Peril )

The novel The Iron Feather takes place during the Post-Atomic Horror. ( TNG novelization : All Good Things... )

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References [ ].

• TNG novel : Survivors

External link [ ]

• Post-Atomic Horror article at Memory Alpha , the wiki for canon Star Trek .
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The  Post Atomic Horror  podcast is a weekly endeavor by Ron “AAlgar” Watt and Matt Rowbotham. It is a discussion of  Star Trek , by way of reviewing all the episodes and movies in rough chronological order. Beginning with the original (1966-1969) series, continuing through the animated series and first six movies, as well as the 2009 reboot; on through The  Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager  and finally  Enterprise , The  Post Atomic Horror  podcast is apparently committing its hosts to something like seven years worth of content, two episodes at a time.

Regular contributors to PAH (2012). From left: Amanda Smith, Brian Lynch, Kevin Lynch (Flonk), Ron “AAlgar” Watt, Matt Rowbotham, Mark Boszko (Bob), “Irish” Gav Brown

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Regular contributors (2015): Brian Lynch, Kevin Lynch (Flonk), Matt Rowbotham, Ron “AAlgar” Watt, Amanda Smith, Nathan LaJeunesse, Mark Boszko (Bob)

In the first five years of its existence,  PAH  has covered nearly 500 episodes and twelve movies in over 200 podcasts. In mid-2014, they officially passed the halfway point of all Star Trek . They have also released a number of “supplemental” episodes featuring extended discussions on various Trek -related topics. Since 2012,  PAH  has orchestrated annual “crossover” episodes with its sister show,  Drunken Time Travel , a  Doctor Who  podcast hosted by Gav Brown and Gav Drury.

In 2013, the hosts of the  Post Atomic Horror  were granted a panel at the Emerald City Comicon. The panel was well-attended, and AAlgar and Matt hope to stage similar events in the future.

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Two episode guides — one covering the entirety of TOS and one covering the entirety of TNG — have been published by AAlgar and Matt. These guides contain entirely original material not featured on the podcast and are available in both print and electronic forms.

In August of 2015, the show celebrated its fifth anniversary with a live recording at Seattle’s Pocket Theater. Further live recordings at this venue are currently being considered as well.

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Ron “AAlgar” Watt and Matt Rowbotham have been working as a writing/performing duo since 2006. They began working together on a weekly webcomic, which ran for three years. In 2009, they launched the  Sarcastic Voyage  podcast, a showcase of comedy sketches, serials and the occasional long-form radio play. In 2010, they began the Post Atomic Horror podcast.

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In 2012, the pair created a short YouTube video poking fun at legendary comics creators Neil Gaiman and Alan Moore. Thanks in part to coverage by Comics Alliance , Topless Robot , Newsarama and other prominent “nerd news” sites, the video went viral, racking up over 10,000 hits in under a week.

On his own, AAlgar has produced a series of comedic reviews of the 80s  Transformers  cartoon (100 in total), which have received a modest following on YouTube. He has since moved on to reviews of GI Joe. AAl currently hosts the interview podcast More Bits as well. He has also collaborated with Mark Darin of Telltale Games (then the head of Pinhead Games ) on three acclaimed point-and-click adventure games.  Brain Hotel , which he both wrote and directed, received over 500,000 downloads worldwide and received acclaim from, among others, PC Gamer UK magazine .

Matt is currently reviewing Marvel comics’ What If? series on his blog, Forbidden to Interfere .

AAlgar lives in Seattle, WA with his wife, Amanda Smith. Matt Rowbotham lives in Oregon with his wife, Mallory DuVal.

The hosts can be reached via the show e-mail: postatomichorror at gmail. Trek -related questions for the show can also be sent to this address.

AAl and Matt can also be reached via Twitter at @aalgar and @robotmatt , respectively.

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The show is hosted by Seattle writer Ron "AAlgar" Watt and his stalwart Canadian associate Matt Rowbotham, often with one of a rotating stable of guests from around the world. A typical episode of the podcast covers two Star Trek episodes, each having a short, humorous summary followed by a discussion/review, and a selected quote. There are also supplemental episodes where the hosts will answer viewer mail, discuss the current season as a whole, and talk about broader aspects of Trek, and biannual crossovers with the now-defunct Doctor Who podcast Drunken Time Travel, where the hosts challenge each other to review other sci-fi/fantasy series, including Pushing Daisies , Voyagers! , Sliders , and of course Doctor Who .

In the time period between Discovery and Picard, the hosts reviewed a number of other genre shows. When there is no Star Trek available, they now record Kids Love Batman, a DCAU review podcast.

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• Bashir is an upper-class twit with an incongruous thick Cockney accent. (A reference to the hosts' other show, Sarcastic Voyage.)
• On TNG, Worf is a Cloud Cuckoolander who doesn't know who Wesley is, doesn't believe the ship has shuttlecrafts, and locks his son in the closet on weeks he doesn't have a role in the plot. This died down a little on DS9, where the new joke became that he is a stick in the mud.
• Inspired by an episode where people kept telling Sisko numbers with no context for the viewer, they began to characterize Sisko as incapable of doing basic arithmetic.
• Keiko O'Brien gets a lot too, due to the writers frequently writing her as shrewish and demanding, to the point where a Post Atomic Horror listener wrote an Irish drinking song about "Keiko O'Brien, Miles O'Brien's terrible horrible wife." They are always complementary of the actress, however, and make sure to note any time she is written well, a consideration which Chekov never got.
• Taken up to Eleven on Voyager where Neelix, Chakotay, and Harry Kim are the frequent targets of scorn. Harry Kim, particularly, with his status as the ship's "special boy" gets the most vitriol.

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• One taken up mainly by the show's guests is ending an episode summary with a variation on Scotty's famous "They'll be no tribble at all" line.
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The Post-Atomic Horror was a term historians would use for the period following 2053 until 2079 and shortly thereafter, on Earth . ( TNG : " Encounter at Farpoint ")

While humanity had made contact with two extraterrestrial species -- the Vulcans and the Centaurians in the 2060s -- and environmental damage was being repaired with their help, there were many areas of the planet that were reduced to anarchy and barbarism.

The renewed depredations of this period -- which, in later centuries, would be referred to as a new "Dark Ages" -- helped motivate many to pursue extrasolar colonization efforts. ( Star Trek: Shadowstar Station : "Heritage", "Esteban")

The Terra 10 expedition was among many launched during this era. ( TAS : " The Terratin Incident ", Star Trek Spaceflight Chronology )

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Novel set in the post atomic Horror

• Thread starter Dave Scarpa
• Start date Oct 9, 2019

Dave Scarpa

• Oct 9, 2019

So would anyone like to see a trek novel based in this time period? I would like to see a good author tackle the subject Let’s face it to even recover from a nuclear war in a 100 years and then go on to form starfleet, that would be a tough one to explain and document. But I’d like to see someone try  

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After Enterprise I had assumed a lot of that rebuilding was thanks to the Vulcans' help.  

More than likely but wouldn’t mind reading about it  

Desert Kris

I think Judith and Garfield Reeves-steven's Federation showed a version of it, featuring a different interpretation of Zephram Cochrane. I thought I remember the drugged soldiers from Encounter at Farpoint appear in it. I would be keen to see some books showing humanity's turn around after first contact with the Vulcans.  

Christopher

Desert Kris said: I would be keen to see some books showing humanity's turn around after first contact with the Vulcans. Click to expand...

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Fleet captain.

I get where she was coming from, but count me among that small audience who it would appeal to. I like see these gaps in explored canon get some light shone on them. I’d still like to see like something about the formation of Starfleet, though, like something that could maybe “lead in” to the state of things at the start of Enterprise. Maybe involving a young Admiral Forrest and see him get to where he was basically one of the early heads of Starfleet. I’d also like to see Zefram and Lily be revisited in some fashion, too.  

Christopher said: A few years back, I pitched the idea of doing something filling in the time between First Contact and Enterprise . Margaret Clark didn't think it'd have enough appeal, that it wouldn't feel Trek-like enough or have enough familiar characters, so instead she suggested I do post-ENT instead, and that led to Rise of the Federation. Click to expand...

Mr. Laser Beam

JD said: After Enterprise I had assumed a lot of that rebuilding was thanks to the Vulcans' help. Click to expand...

Unimatrix Q

Would really like to read a trilogy or book series about it. I always wondered about what happened between 2063 and 2079, the time of the tribunal in "Encounter at Farpoint". Would be really interesting to see what the Vulcans did in these years and how things finally got better on Earth.  

Desert Kris said: That sounds like an intriguing story idea. Given Margaret Clark's reasons for redirecting you towards the post-ENT era, is it a story idea that could be made to work by including enough familiar Star Trek elements? The way you describe it, it sounds very far outside the box, but I think that is what makes it an exciting idea. Click to expand...

I actuallly think of it as something that fills in the gaps between the rise and fall of Khan(Greg Cox) are you listening, thru what led to WWIII, thru the nuclear war, and humanity climbing out of the ashes and leading to the beginning of warp drive experimentation? Cause let’s face it, if your population is beaten and starving how do you justify space travel?  

Christopher said: I think we should avoid speculations that could cross into story-idea territory. I'll just say that the outside-the-box-ness of it, the chance to tell a different kind of story in the Trek universe, was what interested me, and trying to force as many familiar Trek elements as possible onto it to make it feel more conventionally Trekky would probably be awkward and contrived. I'm reminded of how I felt about the Gotham TV series -- I wanted a crime drama about young Jim Gordon cleaning up the GCPD, but instead it forced its pre-Batman setting to be as much like a conventional Batman story as possible, and I lost interest. If you set out to do a different take on a premise, you should embrace the difference, not try to paper it over with familiar elements. You can't do something well if you're afraid to commit to it fully. Click to expand...

I think I'd be more interested in a WWIII miniseries, than something set after it. At this point it's probably the biggest historical event in the Trek universe that we haven't seen.  

• Oct 10, 2019

JD said: I think I'd be more interested in a WWIII miniseries, than something set after it. At this point it's probably the biggest historical event in the Trek universe that we haven't seen. Click to expand...

tomswift2002

Strangers From The Sky ’s 21st century portions take place after WWIII and between 2028-2065. However with the book originally being published in September 1987, it doesn’t reference anything from TNG.  

Little_kingsfan

Also, "Hearts and Minds" covered the 2020s-2060s in very broad strokes through the lens of the US' encounters with aliens and/or time travel.  

Christopher said: WWIII was depicted to a degree in The Lost Era: The Sundered , and in the SNW story "The Immortality Blues" that's consistent with The Sundered . Federation also addresses an alternative version of it to some extent. So we have seen it in the literature. Click to expand...

JD said: The Sundered is the only one of those I've read, and I don't remember it going into that much detail about WWIII either. Click to expand...

Rear Admiral

• Oct 15, 2019

Christopher said: A few years back, I pitched the idea of doing something filling in the time between First Contact and Enterprise . Margaret Clark didn't think it'd have enough appeal Click to expand...

Yeah, and as i said before i wondered how tribunals like the one in "Encounter at Farpoint" could still exist in 2079. After all the Vulcans at this point were already on Earth for around 16 years. And it seemed like from Q's words in the episode, these things were globally happening and he used this fact as one of the reasons for judging humanity...  

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