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Long Travel Suspension Kit / Tundra 00-06 & Sequoia 00-07

$ 3,445.00 – $ 4,220.00

Long Travel Suspension kit for the Toyota 00-06 Tundra and 00-07 Sequoia will achieve 14″ of fully-functional wheel travel in 2WD or 4WD

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The Long Travel Suspension Kit for Toyota Tundra 00-06 & Sequoia 00-07 will achieve 14″ of fully-functional wheel travel in 2WD or 12.5″ of travel for 4WD kits. The kit widens the trucks front stance 3.5″ per side. Combine this 14″ Long Travel kit with our Fabricated Spindles , 1″ Lower Uniball Conversion , or Steering upgrades for a bulletproof setup.

We took it a step above our competitors and made ¾” heims standard on the UCAs included in this kit! This will help to align your truck, even if you have a bent or fatigued frame.

Our Toyota  W-I-Y UCA Double Shears are not included but highly recommended in order to keep the UCA cross shaft bolt from bending during hard driving/ Off-roading.

Recommended grease for bushings – Maxima Waterproof Grease

Application

• 2000-2003 Toyota Tundra 2WD and 4WD
• 2004-2006 Toyota Tundra 2WD and 4WD
• 2000-2007 Toyota Sequoia 2WD and 4WD
• **Note: Please specify your year truck when ordering**
• 14” of wheel travel 2WD
• 12.5″ of wheel travel 4WD
• 3 1/2″ per side increased track width
• Fits 35″ tire size
• Fiberglass required: Yes
• Extended Front Brake Lines
• 2WD/4WD compatible
• 4130 Chromoly Uniball cups
• MIG Welded construction
• Made in the U.S.A

Long Travel Suspension Kit Includes

• Tubular Control Arms with 3/4″ heim pivots and 1” uniballs
• BOXED Lower Control Arms with Polyurethane bushing pivots
• Steering Connectors
• DOT Stainless Brake Lines
• Limit Straps and weld-on frame tabs
• Black Semi-Gloss Powder coated finish
• Upper Shock Coil Bucket Adapters for 8″ stroke coil over shocks*
• Grade 8 Hardware
• 17-4 Stainless Steel Misalignment Spacers
• FK 3/4 heim joints
• FK 1″ Uniballs
• Extended 4WD Axle Shafts with factory spline count for Toyota Automatic Differential Disconnect Hubs   (Customer must assemble axles with supplied axle shafts) ( 4WD KIT ONLY )

Small Lower Ball Joint:  00-02 Tundra Access Cab, 00-03 Sequoia ( Square bolt pattern )

Big Lower Ball Joint:  04-07 Sequoia, 03-06 Tundra ( Rectangle bolt pattern )

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Toyota Long Travel Instructions

Toyota UCA to Fabricated Spindles

Toyota UCA to Stock Spindles

Toyota Long Travel UCA Spacer Diagram

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Optional Upgrades

Toyota W-I-Y Upper Control Arm Double-Shear Kit

Solo Motorsports offers our W-I-Y Upper Control Arm Double-Shear kit for Tacoma and Tundra Toyotas.

Toyota Alignment Cam & Cam Tabs Upgrade

The Toyota Alignment Cam Upgrade kit is the BEST way to make sure your truck stays aligned, forever! Unlike many other kits ours offers more points of alignment, properly shanked bolts, and nuts capable of withstanding severe vibration and shock loads.  Read the full description to find out what makes our kit the best!

Toyota Fabricated Spindles / 2WD and 4WD

Solo Motorsports is proud to offer our fully-fabricated spindles for both the 2WD and 4WD 1996-2004 Toyota Tacoma, the 2000-2006 Toyota Tundra, and 1996-2002 Toyota 4Runner.

Toyota Tundra Transmission Mount / 2000-2004

Upgrade your offroad experience with our Toyota Tundra Transmission Mount. Designed to fit 2000-2004 Toyota Tundra with A340E Transmissions.

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The Dirt King long travel kit was developed to drastically improve the vehicles off-road handling without compromising its day to day driving characteristics. This suspension system allows for 14.5” of travel and accepts up to a 37” tire. The kit is compatible with 2WD models and 4WD models along with the purchase of extended axle shafts. Our upper and lower arms are designed with 1” stainless steel uniballs for the outer pivots instead of ball joints for strength and increased articulation. Compared to the competition we’ve gained several inches of ground clearance by mounting the lower arms in the factory location instead of below it. This kit is CAD designed, thoroughly tested, and 100% made in America resulting in a product we’re proud to put our name on!

 Specifications

• Wheel Travel: 14.5”
• Amount of Lift: 0-4”
• Track Width: 3” wider per side
• Maximum Tire Size: 37”
• Maximum Backspacing: 4.75”
• Minimum Rim Size: 17”
• Coil over Shock Size: 2.5” x 8” 
• Bypass Shock Size: 2.5” x 8” 
• Bump Stop Size: 2.0” x 2.0”

4WD 4WD vehicles must purchase extended axle shafts or complete axle assemblies to retain 4WD. There's two options for the material grade on the axles. Either 4340 (strong) or 300M (strongest).  To achieve the full amount of travel on 4WD models you must install the 1” diff drop kit also.

Shocks For the best performance and to achieve the full amount of travel you must purchase our spec built shocks or have them custom built based on our coil over spec sheet. Our long travel kit is also tabbed to accommodate bypass shocks.  The bypass shocks will allow for superior suspension dampening and tune-ability. To mount the bypasses we offer a weld on bypass shock hoop kit (DK-815910) that can be purchased separately. The bypass shock hoop kit requires welding and modifications to the frame. For extreme off-roading the kit has the ability to accept bump stops along with the coil overs and bypasses. The use of bump stops will also require welding and modifications to the frame.

Wheel Travel When shopping long travel kits many consumers tend to focus just on travel numbers. This is the reason many companies claim inaccurate numbers or don’t disclose the amount of work involved to achieve these numbers. Our goal is to build a suspension system with the highest amount of wheel travel without requiring major modifications to the vehicle or compromising its overall drivability.

Tire Info When using 37” tires with this kit modifications to the wheel well will need to be made. The firewall pinch weld will need to be folded over and front cab mount needs to be shaved to avoid contact while turning. The upper wheel well will also need to be modified to avoid contact at full bump.   

 What's Included

• Boxed plate upper control arms
• Boxed plate lower control arms
• 9" quad wrapped limit straps
• Weld on adjustable limit strap mounts
• 17-4 stainless steel misalignment spacers
• 17-4 stainless steel tie rod extensions
• DOT approved extended brake lines 
• Grade 8 mounting hardware
• Zinc plated bushing washers
• Bolt on application, minimal modifications required
• Utilizes American made FK bearings
• 4130 chromoly uniball cups
• Polyurethane bushings for the UCA’s
• Delrin bushings for the LCA’s
• Zinc plated inner bushing sleeves
• Grease fittings for easy servicing             
• 3/16" and 1/8” boxed plate construction
• Internally ribbed with extrusions for weight reduction
• Bump stop plating
• Limit strap tabbing
• Bypass tabbing

  Compatibility

2007-2021 Toyota Tundra 2WD / 4WD * Front fiberglass required.

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Damaged or Missing Parts In an instance where you receive a damaged package a claim must be made with Dirt King. The claim can be submitted by sending an email to [email protected] containing photos of the damaged packages and damaged products. The email must also include your order number as well. Do not discard any of the original packaging or try installing the products.

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• Products such as bumpers, hitches, and bed cages that have optional powder coat added are subject to a 7% restocking fee and a 3% processing fee. If the order is canceled before the product is powder coated then the 7% restocking fee can be waived.
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All products sold or manufactured by Dirt King are intended for off-road use only. Our products are strictly engineered and tested and are not to be modified from its original design in any way. Customer assumes all liability in assuring that parts are installed correctly and maintained. Dirt King is not responsible or liable for any accidents, injuries or deaths that may occur from the use of any products offered. Suspension modifications may change the dynamics and stability characteristics of the vehicle. Ensuring prompt wheel alignment and ADAS recalibration after suspension modifications is critical and the sole responsibility of the customer.

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1st Gen Tundra / Sequoia Long Travel Suspension

• Regular price $2,950.00

At 4.5” wider per side and 1” forward for extra firewall clearance, this kit allows up to 15” of useable wheel travel. Upper balljoints are replaced by 1” FK uniballs for maximum strength and durability, and stock rubber bushings are replaced by durable polyurethane or optional heim joints.

For 4WD kits, we build custom CV axles with heat treated 300m axle shafts and machined / rebuilt / rebooted OEM CV joints for added articulation and strength. Axles come completely assembled and ready to bolt on.

Kit includes: boxed upper and lower control arms with Energy poly bushings, tie rod extensions, extended steel braided brake lines (replaces hard and soft sections of stock lines), spindle to upper uniball adapters, and custom coilover top brackets. Arms come raw or powdercoated gunmetal grey.  Adjustable upper arms equipped with FK heims available as an option.

*Custom coilovers can be added to your order, message or email us for details!*

Rock crawling, trail running or prerunning a race course, this suspension does it all! 

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2000-2006 Tundra Long Travel Suspension Kit

$ 2,300.00

None 00-03 04-06

None ADS 2.5″ Remote Resi Coilovers (+ $ 1,966.50 ) ADS 2.5″ Remote Resi Coilovers w/ Clicker Adjusters (+ $ 2,422.50 ) None

None Yes (+ $ 650.00 ) None

None ADS 2.125″ x 2.0″ Bumpstops (+ $ 631.48 ) None

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None ADS 2.5″ x 8″ 3 Tube Bypasses (+ $ 2,647.39 ) None

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MCM Fab Long Travel Suspension for the 2000-2006 Toyota Tundra.  Our kit features a CNC bent, MIG welded, boxed lower control arm design with internal ribbing for increased strength and rigidity.  The Upper Control arms are TIG Welded using high quality American made DOM Tubing.  Stainless FK Uniballs are used for the Upper Arm outer pivot to provide a long service life in even the harshest conditions. Our Bushings are made by Energy Suspension using the highest quality polyurethane they offer for long service life.  The steering extensions and misalignment spacers are machined in house from Stainless Steel for strength and durability.

The kit is capable of 13″-14″ of useable travel using a shortbody 8″ Coilover.

Extended axles required to retain 4wd capability

Kit includes

• 3.5″ Wider Per Side
• TIG Welded Uniball Upper Arms
• MIG Welded Boxed Lower Arms
• Steering Extensions
• Limit Straps
• Extended Brake Lines
• All Necessary hardware for installation

Shock Specs

• 15.5″ Compressed from Top of Strut Adapter to Center of Lower Eyelet
• Raised Spring Perch
• 8″ Travel
• 18″ x 600lb Springs for Access Cab, 18 x 650lbs for Double Cab

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Camburg Toyota Tundra 2wd/4wd 07-21 Race Series Long Travel Kit

$ 3,995.00 – $ 8,128.99

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Our off-the-shelf long-travel kit for the 2007-2021 Toyota Tundra’s has been raced down in Baja, Mexico, stateside in the Best in the Desert race series and all the way to the Dakar Rally. No other long-travel kit for these trucks has been pushed and used to this level of off-roading.

We designed this kit to yield maximum useable wheel travel (15-16”) being 2.5” wider per side and pushing the wheelbase forward 1” for added tire clearance at the firewall when running 35-37” tires. We’ve improved front end geometry for better handling and driving characteristics all while being able to be driven on-road with ease as a daily driver. This suspension system is great for tight and technical trail use that requires increased articulation and traction along with higher speed desert use needing bottoming and damping control with much stronger components that won’t leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere.

Our suspension system is made up of a few key components ……

The tubular 4130 chromoly upper arms come standard with polyurethane bushing at the inner pivot points on the frame. This reduces flexing while under heavy loads and under braking while allowing for reduced friction and zero binding. These are grease-able via zerk fittings and serviceable. We combine this with a large FK 1.50” PTFE lined uniball that adapts to the spindle with heat-treated stainless steel spacers. No modifications or drilling is necessary since the spacers match the taper of the factory ball-joint. This is all through bolted together with a 12pt grade 8 bolt that is recessed in the uniball for a lower profile and cleaner look. We don’t use a machined tapered pin that uses a much smaller/weaker bolt to hold it all together. The 1.50” uniball is much stronger, lasts longer and allows for more wheel travel since it has more degrees of rotational movement compared to smaller 1” uniballs. A smaller uniball moves less which means less wheel travel …. plain and simple. As an upgrade we also offer our KINETIK billet upper arms using FK 7/8” heim joints for race applications and/or for customers looking for added camber and caster adjustment.

CAD designed, CNC laser cut and formed, the lower arms are an internally gusseted boxed design for added strength, more ground clearance and are lighter in weight. The complex design allows for a beveled front face for better approach angles and rock sliding. All Camburg lower arms use FK 1” uniballs at the inner pivots as well as our KINETIK race trucks. Since the lower arms take the majority of the load, you want to use the best parts available. Cheaper polyurethane or delrin bushings have no business at these locations when something better is available. The uniballs allow for zero binding when the suspension cycles up and down, and has zero flex under braking so your geometry and alignment is always consistent. With Toyota trucks being aligned by their lower arm, a uniball setup also allows for a bind free adjustment and you’re able to torque all the bolts without putting it into a bind. Since the uniball spacers are 1.50” diameter, you have better clamping force in the frame mounts do to the increased surface area which keeps the holes from ovaling out over time unlike a small diameter sleeve used in a bushing. The front of the lower arm is tabbed for our optional front sway-bar system so you have the ability to upgrade that as well at the same time or down the road.

To attach the factory spindle to the lower arm we use an adaptor that’s water-jet cut from thick ¾” steel that houses the FK 1.50” uniball. We use a ¾” Mil-Spec 21250 12 point aircraft bolt. These bolts are rated 180,000 psi minimum tensile strength and 108,000 psi minimum shear strength. A stronger or higher quality bolt does not exist, hence why the Military, NASA and Aircraft companies use these. They have a specific shoulder/grip length and the head design yields higher tensile and shear strengths compared to any Grade 8, 9 or 12.9 bolt. They are made to the highest quality control standards out there. These bolts alone cost $60 each …. You truly get what you pay for.

Included with the kit are steering extensions that are CNC machined in-house from heat-treated stainless steel, extended length stainless braided/Kevlar reinforced front brake lines and our coilover mounts that bolt up into the frame.

For 4wd trucks you’ll need our long-travel axle shafts since we increase the track width. We machine our axles from 4340 chromoly, heat-treat and stress relieve them and finish them off with a powdercoated finish. These are designed to be installed into your OEM Toyota inner and outer CV’s assemblies, not aftermarket remanufactured versions. This is a process that needs to be done by a CV driveline shop.

With this kit you have the ability to run a coilover, with a bypass shock and hydraulic/air bump stop for the ultimate control for off-road use. We have a Camburg spec. FOX or King 2.5 coilover that we’ve designed to yield maximum useable wheel travel and control with specific valving. When adding a bypass shock you have the option of a 2.5 or 3.0 series from FOX and King as well. A weld-on bypass mount kit is available to make for an easier install if you’re not looking to fabricate that yourself. Running a 2.0 x 2.5 bumpstop will help with bottoming resistance especially when only running a coilover. This kit requires custom shocks.

Fiberglass front fenders need to be installed in conjunction with this suspension system. While this kit is able to be 100% bolt-on, we recommend having it installed by a reputable off-road shop familiar with these types of products and components. This is not for your beginner mechanic to handle.

Long Travel Kit (CAM-310018-U):

• Tubular 1.50 uniball upper control arms
• Boxed uniball lower control arms
• Lower 1.50 uniball spindle adapters
• Steering extensions
• Extended front brake lines (CAM-330004)
• 12″ limit straps (CAM-030052)
• Upper coilover shock mounts
• L/T Kit with KINETIK billet uniball upper arms (CAM-310018-K-GRY)
• Camburg 4340 4wd axle shafts (CAM-310035)
• FOX 2.5 coilover kit (CAM-310026-4)
• King 2.5 coilover kit (CAM-310026-5)
• FOX 2.0 x 2.5″ bump stops w/ cans (2x 980-02-311 & CAM-040027)
• King 2.0 x 2″ bump stops w/ cans (2x BS2020 & 20AB422-104)
• Camburg 2.5/3.0 bypass shock mount kit (CAM-310045)
• FOX 2.5 bypass shock kit (CAM-310027-1)
• FOX 3.0 bypass shock kit (CAM-310027-3)
• King 2.5 bypass shock kit (CAM-310027-2)
• King 3.0 bypass shock kit (CAM-310027-4)
• Camburg front sway-bar kit (CAM-310105)
• Must use specific long-travel coilovers designed for this kit, OEM style bolt-in coilovers will not work.
• Must run fiberglass front fenders.
• 18″ & 20″ OEM wheels will not work with this suspension system.
• Make sure to not use a diff-drop with this kit as it will cause the axle shaft to rub the coil spring since it rotates the diff housing and brings the axle shaft closer.
• The factory sway-bar does not work with this kit as it limits travel. We have an optional sway-bar system specific for this kit.

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The first myth I want to disprove is that getting to Kamchatka is extremely costly. It’s not. Going between February and April, a return flight from Moscow can be had for 11,000 roubles (US$380 / £220). Not bad for 18 hours total flying time. In summer the flights are more expensive but still, if you book them a few months in advance, can be got for 16,000 roubles return.

It’s true, many people will tell you that March and April are the worst months to visit because the snow is starting to melt and everything’s a bit sloshy and dirty in settlements. On the other hand, these are great months for the independent traveller! During winter zimniki (temporary winter roads made of compacted snow or simply frozen river surfaces) open up all over Kamchatka, granting access to communities that in summer are totally isolated. Hitch hiking is possible right from Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky to the very north of the peninsula. Alternatively, vehicles can be hired in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky from tour firms. Also in the winter or early spring months places can be reached that are away even from the zimniki, either by snowmobile or by the use of cross country skis. For example, Klyuchevskaya Sopka, Eurasia’s largest active volcano, can be accessed from the village of Klyuchi without the need even for a guide by a traveller with a pair of cross country skis. Bears do not wake up until mid-April so this is not a danger, but bears almost never attack anyone anyway.

The main disadvantages of winter travel in Kamchatka are that it is cold, there is no greenery and there are no bears, which some people come here especially to see.

The second myth I’d like to dispel is that travel around the peninsula requires hiring a helicopter. As mentioned above, in winter you can get almost anywhere by hitch hiking. I even hitched a lift with bear hunters on snowmobiles from their village to a reindeer herder encampment 100km away. In summer snowmobiles are replaced by horses, and transport is reduced from long distance ice-road journeys to irregular inter-settlement all-terrain vehicle trips. Hitch hiking is possible on these all-terrain vehicles though.

Throughout the year there are fairly expensive public helicopter flights to all settlements which are nevertheless much cheaper than hiring your own helicopter. There is also one permanent, year-round dirt road leading halfway up the peninsula. Some distance after the town of Milkovo, about 350km north of Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky , it forks. The right fork leads to Klyuchi , site of Eurasia’s largest active volcano, and further to the port town of Ust-Kamchatsk. The left fork leads to the indigenous Even villages of Anavgay and Esso. Daily buses go from Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky to Klyuchi , Anavgay and Esso, costing about 1000 roubles each way. In winter a zimnik passable by lorries heads north from Anavgay 36 hours to the otherwise isolated town of Palana. From Palana more zimniki head further north to yet more isolated settlements. From the peninsula’s very northernmost settlements there are even EXTREMELY irregular snowmobile and all-terrain vehicle connections with Magadan Oblast and Chukotka. Another zimnik, only passable by all-terrain vehicle, heads from Anavgay to the village of Ust-Khayryuzovo on Kamchatka’s west coast.

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My wife and I have traveled independently to many European countries and, after reading many of the comments in this forum, feel like we may be able to do so in Moscow and St. Petersburg as well, although we feel somewhat less comfortable than the other countries where we have traveled in Europe.

My biggest question is how much we will miss by visiting the main sites without a tour guide. In the other European countries we have visited on our own we have been comfortable and satisfied with the level of knowledge we have gained by studying and visiting on our own, although we believe a tour guide or tour company in any country would normally be able to provide greater insight than visiting a site on our own, but about in Moscow and St. Petersburg?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Unless you speak at least some Russian and read the alphabet it would be difficult without a guide. Very few signs in English especially in Moscow. Also not too many people speak English there.

I visited St Petersburg last Autumn for a protracted period , and did not find it anymore daunting than any other European city . As Ilja says , learning the Cyrillic alphabet is a big plus . I also found that it was fairly easy to grasp . It will , among other things , enable you to read signs with relative ease . I would answer the main part or your question ( about tour guides ) thus - I am not enamored of tour guides or tours. While I only use a tour under duress ( A sites rules prohibiting an independent visit - ie Glasgow School of Art , Municipal House in Prague , etc ) . Doing your own preparation and homework is the best way , in my opinion . My wife and I ventured through St Petersburg with nary a concern ,and made two day trips outside of the central district ( one was twenty five miles away , and no English speakers in sight ) Figuring out the logistical details , did not present any difficulties . While I never use tours , I am an inveterate eavesdropper , have done so many times , and find , that on balance , the information that they impart is fairly elementary . If you want greater detail , they are unlikely to supply it . I also prefer to go at my own pace , not being rushed and being able to dwell on things that most other visitors barely give a passing glance . If you are interested , let me know . I would be happy to provide you with information that will enable you to travel independently

Thank you, Steven. I am encouraged by your comments and feel the same way you do about tour groups. We are very much willing to prepare in advance and learn the basics of the Cyrillic alphabet to help us have a better experience.

I would be very interested in learning more about your experience in Russia and receiving any additional information you can provide on independent travel there, starting perhaps with obtaining the visa.

I am not opposed to hiring a private or small group guide for a specific site or for a day trip outside St Petersburg and Moscow, but, like you said, I much prefer the freedom of staying at places as long or short as I want and seeing the sites that interest me most. For example, neither my wife nor I are big into shopping, yet most tour itineraries leave afternoon time for just that. Not interested!

Please provide whatever you may feel would be helpful for us.

Russ , I see you are quite near San Francisco - you can start by looking at the VISA procedure , it's fairly straightforward . Since there is a consulate in San Francisco - look here http://www.consulrussia.org/eng/visa-sub1.html

And here - http://ils-usa.com/main.php

Having always traveled independently, we thought we could do a better job than any tour. How misguided (pun intended) we were. Now that we have had the experience of having someone native to the area walk us around and explain things through a personal perspective we realize how much we missed. For St. Petersburg I highly recommend http://www.peterswalk.com/tours.html . This is not a traditional guided tour, but an opportunity to receive some orientation to the area as well as insight into the "Russian soul". I think if you did this upon arrival the rest of your time would be much more meaningful. We really liked the http://www.pushka-inn.com . The location is superb (just around the corner from the Hermitage square), the rooms lovely, the included breakfast at the restaurant next door ample and overall an excellent value. We used this company to get our visa: https://www.passportvisasexpress.com/site/san_francisco_customer_service Note that it costs about the same for a 3-year visa as a one-year, and you never know if you might want to return within that more extended window of time. It is not cheap, so factor that into your planning.

If you like traveling without a guide in other countries and find this satisfying, the same will be true in Moscow and St. Petersburg. Of course it's not either/or - you can certainly take a guided walk or boat tour, for instance.

I cannot emphasize enough the importance of learning Cyrillic if you're going on your own. The book I used was Teach Yourself Beginner's Russian Script, which was great. It breaks down the alphabet into letters that are the same as English, letters that look the same but are pronounced differently, etc. It's out of print, but you can get used copies on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Teach-Yourself-Beginners-Russian-Script/dp/0071419861/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1459701143&sr=8-2&keywords=teach+yourself+russian+script

Russia is indeed a bit more "foreign" than say, Italy. However, in Moscow and St. Petersburg, I found enough English to be able to get by. Many restaurants had English menus and/or English speaking staff, for instance. This was most emphatically not true in Vladimir and Suzdal (two cities in the Golden Ring outside Moscow). I went with my sister, a Russian speaker, and if she hadn't been there, I would have been in big trouble. So, if you want to see places outside these two big cities, use a guided tour (even if just for that part). Also, Moscow and St. Petersburg are huge cities. Coming from New York, I wasn't intimidated, but those not used to a megacity may not be so cavalier (even I found them overwhelming at times, especially Moscow).

I found both Lonely Planet and Rough Guide to be helpful, and both to have various errors. Look at both, buy whichever one has a more recent edition, and then be prepared to have to discard some of the advice therein. Also, these places change more quickly than places in Western Europe. Be very careful of outdated advice. For instance, I was there in 2001 and 2010, so I won't give you any specifics on getting a visa - that changes constantly.

Just as a teaser, two things I saw and loved that I doubt would be included in any escorted tour are the Gorky House in Moscow (an Art Nouveau wonder) and the Sheremyetov Palace in St. Petersburg (it's now a museum of musical instruments, and the decor is amazing, particularly in the Etruscan Room).

Thanks for all the good advice. Any additional thoughts are welcomed.

One of history's seminal works pertaining to Russian history and culture and a MUST for anyone contemplating a visit or simply interested , is this fine work from 1980 - http://www.amazon.com/Land-Firebird-The-Beauty-Russia/dp/096441841X

This is about you and not about Petersburg. Do you like guided tours? We don't and didn't find that a guide added to our experience in China where we did hire private guides mostly for the logistics; it was easy to have someone drive us places. But once at a site, we didn't need the guide. I felt the same way about our 9 nights in Petersburg. We did hire a guide for the trip to the Catherine Palace again for the ease of logistics for us Olds. Here is our visit: https://janettravels.wordpress.com/2016/01/23/an-easy-trip-to-the-catherine-palace/ There are also snapshots of the Church on Spilled Blood in this photo journal. Having someone pick us up at the apartment and get us in without line ups and shepherd us through the palace steering clear of the tour groups was lovely. But we didn't need commentary because we can read and prepare.

You certainly don't need a guide for the Hermitage (we spent 4 days there), the Russian Museum, the Kazan Cathedral or Church on Spilled Blood or the Faberge Museum. We enjoyed a number of self guided walking tours including a couple from Rick Steves guidebooks. We took the canal cruise suggested by RS that had an English commentator. I would not take one without that as you will be totally clueless. The commentator was not all that good but at least we had some idea what we were seeing. So for people like us who like to do our own thing and can read a guidebook and don't particularly like to be led about, a tour is not needed. If you enjoy tour groups, then go for it. Petersburg is easy to negotiate. It helps if you can read the cyrillic alphabet and it is also useful to have the google translate ap on your phone. We found ourselves translating packages in grocery stores with it and the occasional museum sign or menu. I have one food I need to avoid and so it was handy to have the translator to talk with waiters (I could either show them the sentence, or play it for them or play it to myself and then repeat it to the waiter -- that all worked well)

Dear Russ, I cannot help you with Moscow, but about four years ago, my husband and I went to St Petersburg on our own. But, we did use a private guide for 4 half days. We both feel that our guide absolutely made our trip (we stayed 6 or 7 nights). We used a company owned by Tatyana Chiurikova, www.tour-stpetersburg.com I cannot say enough good things about her and our experience. I emailed her and we worked out a schedule/ sights that was tailored to our interests. She also offered some recommendations, which we took. The guide will meet you at your hotel. And frequently, at certain places, with the guide, we were able to skip the long entrance lines. We had an half day driving tour of the city (car, driver, & guide). You are taken to & go in places such as Peter & Paul Fortress, some of the cathedrals, etc. We had a half day with the guide at the Hermitage which ensured that we would see the major sights there. And, of course, you can stay after your guide leaves or return another day. Also, we had the guide for Peterhof (a must & go by boat) and Catherine's Palace. I hope that you will go to the website. As I said, our guide made our trip. I am positive that we would have missed quite a bit on our own everyday. And I'm sure we would have wasted a lot of time trying to get to various place.This was the best of both worlds, a guide where needed and plenty of time on our own. Whatever you do, I'm sure that you will love St Petersburg! Ashley

I am curious about the lines as we encountered no lines on our trip -- but it was in September. We got tickets for the Hermitage at machines and skipped those lines and our guide for the Catherine Palace which was our only guided experience (as noted before, chosen for the logistics of getting there) had arranged tickets and we didn't have a line, but then we also didn't see lines. We did not find lines at any other site.

Both Moscow and St Petersburg I've done on my own, that is together with the Dear Partner. I can't remember any problem getting where we wanted to go. The Metro systems are well signed, and with a little exercise and patience you can recognize the station names. With a good map and a good guide - we had the Rough Guides - that part of the logistics is solved. The language is a major problem, but the usual tricks of pointing, looking helpless, and making a joke of it all do wonders. I would hate to be led by a guide, but for others it is a comfortable thought.

We also did both cities on our own. I found the DK Eyewitness guide for Moscow has the best map. I used the one from our library (kept the book at home). Took the smaller RS book for St. Petersburg ( his book on northern cities). His map and restaurant ideas were all good. We also downloaded the Google maps in our Android Samsung tablets/phones for both cities and then could get directions to any place we typed in. The blue ball guided us everywhere. I'm sure we missed somethings by not having a guide, but we just enjoy walking around and getting a sense of a place. If you like art, The Hermitage is great. We went 3 times and still missed alot. In St. Peterburg we stayed at the 3 Mosta which we loved (quite and not far from the Church of Spilled Blood.) We also loved the Georgian food in both cities. There's a great Georgian restaurant near the 3 Mosta hotel. We're now in Belarus- very scenic. Enjoy your trip!!

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