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Shoei J-Cruise II Helmet & Sena SRL2 Modular BT System Review

New for 2020

It seems spring is here, although most of us are hunkered down somewhere coping with the COVID-19 Pandemic. And while many of us are probably not getting in a whole lot of riding…there are exceptions and overall, where allowed, getting out for a ride is still a good thing. 

And if you can’t go riding or work on your machines, you can spend constructive time online…looking for new stuff to read, such as this updated review of the Shoei J-Cruise II & Sena SRL2 Modular BT System that was first published 3 March 2020; enjoy.

Introduction

Rick reviewed the original Shoei J-Cruise helmet in May 2013…and now we have the new for 2020 J-Cruise II offering, a helmet that has gone through some significant changes from the original version. The J-Cruise II remains a compact, aerodynamic offering but features even more innovative design and technology enhancements.

Virtually all the helmets personally owned or provided for testing and review over the recent decades have been full-face or modular flip-style although two open or three-quarter style helmets – the original Arai SZ-R (now the SZ-R VAS or RAM-X) and a Bell MAG-9 found a home on the helmet shelf some years ago. 

Returning to the present, it is a fact that even more of the (many) open face helmets on the market today have lots in common regarding design, build, features and quality with full-face helmets – not a bad thing when you think of it…

Rick stated in the original J-Cruise review that, “it’s basically a full-face helmet in an open-face shell…you give up the protection of a chin bar but there really aren’t any other compromises to be made.” That statement, almost seven years old, seems even more applicable regarding new generation open face helmets.

After my spouse picked up a Medium LS2 VERSO Mobile , the subject of a wBW review, I decided to keep refining the open face shopping list and by late fall two more Intermediate to Long Oval head-shaped helmets in size Large were added to the short list.

With Shoei announcing their 2020 products including the new J-Cruise II, one of the helmets on my short list, the bid was made to get one in White, Large. Once arranged, some sidebar coordination with the Sena rep resulted in the (new) Sena SRL2 for Shoei helmets being provided…and sometime later the white flaky stuff started falling and piling up! 

Shoei J-Cruise II Overview

In going back to an earlier paragraph, the Shoe J-Cruise II is indeed designed and built to a very high standard . It features a composite fiberglass shell, multi-part multi-density EPS liner, integrated smoothly functioning sun visor, and comfortable conforming supportive head insert and cheek pads.

Feature Summary (Compilation):

• Three quarter or Jet-style helmet with fiberglass composite shell
• Aerodynamic Enhancements – new spoiler and sleeker air intakes, Shoe claims a (significant) 43 percent decrease in side-to-side movement at higher speeds, a seven percent decrease in ‘lift’, and a slight reduction in overall drag
• Quieter – largely due to improved aerodynamics; less turbulence/drag = reduced noise while the updated interior liner keeps sound away from the user’s ears
• Better Ventilation – air intake is increased by 30 percent while the wide narrow rear exhaust vent moves 20 percent more air out of the helmet
• Main Face Shield – anti-scratch CJ-2 better seal against the shell, works to reduce intrusive wind noise (see quieter), new ‘slightly up’ or first position for better ventilation and defogging at low speeds and, Pinlock Evo compatibility (lens included)
• Internal Sun Shield – redesigned with new features, QSV-2 sun shield is 5mm or 0.2in longer than original QSV-1, deployment/retraction slider has distinctive easy to feel raised location housing, is larger and closer to the left side of the main shield, distortion-free, removes 99 percent of UV rays and, the visor can be ‘locked’ down
• Closure – new, stainless steel micro ratchet-closure chinstrap, allowing easy use of the chinstrap with gloves on (can be easier than double D-Ring design), a single D-Ring is retained for dismounted security
• Customizable – cheek pads designed to allow best fit/personalization (see Interior Section), with various sized/tailorable headliner pieces available and removable for cleaning
• BT Communications – both the Sena SRL and SRL2 modular kits fit and are specifically designed to work with the helmet providing all the well-known standard Sena features
• Colorways – five solid colors available – Black, White, Matte Black, Anthracite Metallic and Matte Blue Metallic, pricing is the same for all colors.

Helmet Box Contents:

The industry standard Shoei helmet box contained the J-Cruise II Large in White, housed in the standard SHOEI helmet bag, a plastic Service Tool, small bottle of silicone oil, two manuals – How to Use Your Helmet Properly and J-Cruise II User Manual (both multi-language) and two SHOEI decals. 

Consumers have five (solid) color choices for the Shoei J-Cruise II helmet:

• Anthracite Metallic, Matte Blue Metallic, Matte Black, Black, and White.

Exterior – Design, Build, & Finish

The Advanced Integrated Matrix (AIM) shell is formed of multiple high-quality composites and organized fiber layers; the combination provides excellent outer shell shock resistance with optimum rigidity. A characteristic or advantage of this composite form is reduced weight.

Four outer shell sizes are used – XS-SM, MD, LG, and XL-2XL , for perfect helmet range fitment and overall, a more compact piece.

An updated face shield (visor) mechanism (QRSA), along with a change of the window beading provides a better fit and better seal. The internal sun visor mechanism is improved and accommodated without sacrificing the thickness of the multi-part multi-density EPS inner shell with space provided by raising the forehead area of the outer shell a needed amount.

With continued use, I have gained even more appreciation for the updated face shield with its excellent coverage, the great eye port seal and a simple to use face shield mechanism, along with the smooth-running sun visor; everything works.

Paint & Finish

Finish of the outer shell itself is outstanding with the gloss White and thick clear coat providing a great first impression. Only one very small bluish blemish is seen on the right side; otherwise it’s perfect. Despite a few bumps over the review period, the gloss White is still looking as good as it did some months ago – it is one durable finish.

Not so perfect is the alignment of the back Shoei J-Cruise II decal and the DOT stickers is crooked – QC missed these. Relative to how great everything else is, this isn’t.

Helmet Shape

For the North American market, Shoei uses an intermediate oval shape that fits a large percentage of the population and in trying on other Shoei models that also use this shape, I was confident that the J-Cruise II would be a good fit and, it is.

Investing in the best helmet possible is just one of those things that need doing. And we are so well served regarding consumer demographics that it is pretty safe to say that no matter what your ‘best fit’ is, there is or should be something on the market to fit, in any style and virtually any price range as well (see my first comment above). 

Summary: Excellent. Less one little blemish, everything else regarding design, build, and overall finish is great and the longer the helmet is used, the more I come to appreciate how it all looks and works.

It isn’t unusual to see molded plastic or silicone trim parts on helmets, although most are not meant to be removed unless a limited replacement of minor parts is needed (where helmet shell or integrity is not involved). 

The J-Cruise II has some of these pieces, three to be exact – the left and right lower covers and a back center plate . These three become the ‘removed’ pieces to make room for the Sena SRL2 BT components.

Initial Rating – Excellent. Updated information, assessment, and overall rating data will be provided in the follow-up.

The center pad or headlining is a lightweight and comfortable 3D Max-Dry antibacterial and moisture-wicking material. The piece is easily removed for washing or replacement.

Removing the headliner for regular cleaning is indeed simple and one that doesn’t seem to add stress to any of the pieces. Regular inspection, cleaning and replacing of components is critical in maintaining the functionality of the helmet and the $$ investment.

For those who may have specific head fitment issues, Shoei offers an experimental service – the Personal Fitting System (PFS) , by appointment only at their California HQ. The objective of this service is to not address helmet size, but rather to enable fine-tuning regarding overall helmet fitment.

This article produced by Motorcycle.com sheds more light on the PFS.

Removable ear pad pieces formed of a shaped brushed material section with foam rounds attached (shell side) for the speaker recesses are installed forming part of the overall noise reduction strategy, particularly for around the ears. If speakers are to be installed the earpad pieces are simply removed.

Some documentation for the helmet identifies that these covers can still be used even after speakers are installed. But I see two issues here: (a) the speaker foam rounds themselves would severely restrict audio in covering the speakers and, (b) clearance for the ears could be an issue.

In acknowledging that some users may indeed want to retain the light brushed material covering between the speakers and their ears, the fact is that the foam rounds are plastic-backed and glued/stitched to the softer brushed material section – not exactly reusable.

A more user-friendly solution might be to use separate foam rounds for the EPS recesses, removed when speakers are not installed and make the larger earpad cover material sections reusable or add this layer as a drop-down on the headliner or foldable section on the cheek pad cover.

Clearance between the SRL2 speakers and the ears is just about right for great audio with some airflow clearance. As such, the provided spacers were not needed, and I have not added any thin liner material over the speakers as discussed above.

And speaking of cheek pads, they are well-shaped, well-padded, supportive and comfortable. They are also easily removed for access (like installing a BT system), cleaning or replacement. 

Again, some posted media references the fact that the thickness of the provided pieces can be customized through delayering… hard to believe as these cheek pads are covered and stitched…

But complete cheek pads are available in different thicknesses so that users can get the absolute best fit.

Longer-term use of the helmet is resulting in an even better fitting more comfortable interior with the conforming headliner doing an excellent job of coping with my head shape that, as identified in the Sena Momentum EVO review, sits between an intermediate and long oval…

Summary: Excellent. Well laid out and fitted between all the pieces – everything sits in place providing a welcoming encompassing fit and feel for the head. Housing of and placement for the Sena SRL2 speakers is about as perfect as one could want, at least for my listening posts.

Helmet Weight

The original Shoei J-Cruise in Large weighed in at 1610gr or 56.8oz (3.5lbs) about the same as many full-face helmets of the time. In seeing posted media weights between 1250 to 1350gr for the J-Cruise II it seemed the new model carried less weight than the original.

However, the Shoei J-Cruise II helmet provided for this review, on the Pelouze scales, came in at 1600gr or 56.4oz (3.5lbs), virtually the same as the original model. Another observation is that there is no sticker outside or inside with a weight listing – information provided with many new helmets today, including those carrying ECE certification information.

With the Sena SRL2 BT kit installed an increase of 96gr or 3.3oz is noted resulting in a final weight of 1696gr or 59.8oz (3.7lbs). Comparatively, the new Shoei J-Cruise II is on par with the original, but seemingly (subject to further open face data analysis) still a bit on the hefty side.

Time and use hasn’t resulted in the J-Cruise II losing weight…but it has validated the assessment that the helmet is well-balanced on the head and, that it doesn’t become a burden on the head, neck and shoulders after hours of riding.

Summary: Excellent. You might ask how a helmet that is indeed ‘heavy’ in relation to many other three-quarter style helmets gets this rating; simple – because it carries its weight so well and has not yet become a burden that must be borne.

Fit & Comfort

With a 59-60cm (Large) intermediate to long oval-shaped head, Arai has been my helmet and fit of choice for decades; and in trying on earlier rounder profile Shoei helmets I just couldn’t (literally) get my head wrapped comfortably inside them.

So, I was pleasantly surprised that in first trying on the J-Cruise II with its intermediate oval shape and then wearing it for a couple of days around the house and garage, and after the first short early winter ride, the initial impressions were all positive.

In having gone through a great many helmets over the years, some skepticism over the good vibes regarding initial Shoei J-Cruise II use remained; that was then, this is now, and the early skepticism is gone.

Fit of any helmet, no matter what it is used for is critical – proper fit provides optimal protection (as designed) with a balanced helmet distributing weight more evenly around the head, neck, and shoulders – another factor needing consideration.

The only observation so far is that the lower front shaping of the shell and liner is an appreciated encompassing feature but one that also tends to make putting the helmet on and taking it off a bit more difficult than experienced with the other short-listed helmets. 

Summary: Outstanding. Given heads and personalities, this is truly as subjective as objective, but I now know that full and appreciated use of a Shoei helmet is possible for this motorcyclist. Which just makes me want to try more of them…

Ventilation & Noise Levels

Ventilation.

The front intake consists of three vertical intakes (vice two on the original J-Cruise helmet) and Shoei claims overall air intake is up by 30 percent – a big increase. A unique feature allows each intake segment to be adjusted separately; Open = back; Halfway = mid; and, Closed = forward.

Opening any or all, of the three front top intakes can increase noise levels depending on cockpit and ambient environments, so the ability to adjust each frontal intake is a great feature, something always appreciated with my Arai helmets.

Vouching for the functionality and versatility of the three top intake pieces is easy; the approach works in spades to manage airflow, left, centre and right or all together. It is indeed over-engineered, but it works when facing cold, cool or warm temperatures – ‘hot’ isn’t on the radar screen, yet.

Internally, the J-Cruise II has four distinctive EPS inner shell air channels that provide maximum movement of air into, around and through the helmet for continuous air movement that can, of course, be modulated thanks to the three separately adjustable front intakes.

Shoei states that exhaust efficiency is also improved by 20 percent which is bound to make things better overall and the single-wide low-profile exhaust looks more than up to the job of handling the increased outflow – further use in warmer temperatures should tell the tale.

Air flow into, through and out the J-Cruise II helmet is very good related to the top intakes and rear exhaust for over and around the head air flow. And with three quarter helmets open when it comes to the lower area, coverage provided by the face shield and helmet aerodynamics is critical in considering protection, ventilation and noise.

Noise Levels

In not having used the original J-Cruise helmet my initial impression is that the J-Cruise II is a quiet helmet. Airflow and air pressure can be felt and heard against the face shield but much of it is positively redirected to the sides and bottom; wind tunnel testing pays dividends…

Some air does flow in under the bottom of the face shield, but it adds very little to the overall noise environment and does not put a chill on things. During these initial rides on the BMW F850GSA with its smallish windscreen (low position) ambient air temperature was 2C or 35F (wind chill not calculated).

A lot of air has flowed on to, around, over, and under the helmet since these initial statements were made. Overall, the J-Cruise II is indeed a quiet helmet, relative to its style and openness of course; design, build, and air management are obviously important aspects with Shoei.

Moving off with the face shield up or partially up is the (expected) noisy-with-rushing-air experience, but with the face shield down, there is minimal air pressure and lots of frontal protection even though the bottom of the helmet is still open to all intents.

Relative here is that the deep wide curved aerodynamic face shield functions like an insulating window when closed. Airflow is deflected while pressure is minimized, and noise levels drop significantly; and, virtually nothing in the way of roiled or disturbing air is felt along the bottom edges; its good, very good.

I have full face and modular helmets that are noisier on the outside and especially on the inside compared to the J-Cruise II, at least when used on the F850GSA Rallye (small short shield) and F850GSA Exclusive (larger wider shield). And one short ride on an un-faired motorcycle revealed how aerodynamic and quiet the J-Cruise II is overall.

Summary: Very Good to Excellent. It seems (in not having worn the original J-Cruise) that Shoei has been very diligent in providing excellent aerodynamics to address ventilation (high and low) while creating a truly quiet interior.

Face Shield & Sun Visor

Face shield.

The updated CJ-2 Face Shield System is 10mm longer than the original J-Cruise face shield and provides additional frontal wind and debris coverage. This 10mm increase comes distributed as an additional 5mm at the top and the bottom.

Also new is a slight up or ‘first position’ setting, serving as the initial release détente to provide extra airflow for cooling and defogging, appreciated when traveling at low speeds.

Even before the Pinlock insert (see below) got installed, coverage and functionality of the face shield had been well validated, especially the first position or unlocked setting that really does work for added ventilating/cooling/defogging airflow, at speed or creeping along in cool damp weather where fogging could have been an issue.

In use the heavier edged outward turned edge along the bottom of the face shield works extremely well, providing strength to minimize flex while functioning as an effective spoiler to deflect air pressure sideways, minimize turbulence and, reduce noise levels along the front of the helmet.

The edge seal is changed from a double-lipped shape to an airtight-sealed window style – this change is claimed to offer superior performance and durability and, a watertight seal along the top and sides of the helmet. In the event a better seal is needed, a light application of the provided silicone oil along the window seal beading can help.

Although the unexpected lifting of the face shield due to speed or wind gusts hasn’t been a major issue with other open face helmets worn, the potential issues and consequences are acknowledged; Shoei addresses things with a détente stop for the unlocked or slightly up position and a full shield stopper lock when it’s fully closed.

This left-side shield stopper (latch) features a small indent on the inner side of the shield that engages with a small tab on the lower plastic edge molding of the helmet; it takes a positive push outwards to disengage the lock and push the shield; simple, effective, totally functional.

With the shield stopper lock used for higher speed riding conditions, for most other riding conditions and with some frontal windscreen protection the face shield sits securely in the slightly up or unlocked position détente.

The CJ-2 face shield is Pinlock ready, but is not included in the kit. It is available from the Shoei Store (Pinlock evo, for Shoei CJ-2/CJ-2SP, PN DKS 105) and one was subsequently provided by the Shoei rep; thank you.

With the face shield removed and cleaned on both sides, everything is laid out on a lint-free surface. Using the included instructions as a guide it was a five-minute exercise to check layout, fit the lens, make sure it was fully seated/sealed and then replace the newly enhanced face shield back on the helmet – done.

Functionally, the Pinlock insert keeps the (primary) upper 60 percent of the face shield now completely fog-free, even in damp cool weather or when the wet stuff is falling; the difference in effectiveness is visually evident in being able to easily fog up the lower part of the face shield from the inside…the top Pinlock sealed section stays clear.

Shoei’s highly rated Quick Release Self Adjusting or QRSA mechanism makes easy work of removing or installing the CJ-2 face shield. The manual identifies three ‘hooks’ or engagement tabs that should be visually identified before first attempting to remove or install the shield.

To remove: support the helmet; open the face shield fully; pull the spring-loaded finger-tip-friendly spring-loaded trigger lever down and with a gentle wiggle, disengage the three ‘hooks’ or tabs; and, lift the respective side of the shield away. Repeat for the other side.

To install: support the helmet, lay the shield over the helmet in the fully open position, pull down on the trigger mechanism, align and push the three hooks or tabs into their spots, with the shield engaged, release the lever and check for proper engagement and movement.

A new Sun Visor (identified as the QSV-2 vice the original QSV-1) adds 5mm of coverage for better overall sun blockage or shade. Many sun visors are too short or too long – this one is just right for my face, providing clearance between the nose/cheeks and the visor; a factor to assess when trying on helmets with internal visors…

The sun visor lever or slider control sits on the left side just behind the face shield mechanism; low profile but easily reached. The slider itself is very positive in its action, taking little effort to lower or raise the sun visor.

It is, when needed, also removable. With the sun visor lowered, lift both small left and right recessed levers between the shell and the inner liner on both sides; once activated a distinct click is heard and the sun visor is locked down, facilitating access for removal/replacement.

Like the face shield, no distortion is noted when using the sun visor and its fog-free coating seems to work well. The sun visor insert piece is tested to DIN EN 1836 standard (link) and meets ANSI Z80.3-2010 standards for non-prescription eyeglasses.

Vision Assessment

The face shield with Pinlock and the sun visor work extremely well under all weather conditions – great coverage, solid feel, easy to adjust, and no flexing whatsoever. Aerodynamics of the face shield keeps a lot of oncoming moisture cleared and angling left or right also works with some airflow.

The sun visor covers the top 40 percent (approximated) of the face shield for encompassing glare mitigation, all without intruding on the nose or cheeks – great clearance; the left side slider control is easy to find and easy to use.

Summary: Outstanding. For a three-quarter helmet, the Shoei J-Cruise II has frontal coverage protection that (almost) equals some lesser full-face helmets – cockpit environments considered of course. In cold weather, air flow can indeed be felt along the lower edge of the face shield and bottom of the helmet, but not much – the full coverage aerodynamic face shield and precise fitting neck roll work together very (very) well.

Other Observations 

Chin Strap/Fastener – for the new J-Cruise II, Shoei moved from the double D-Ring solution to a unique micro-ratchet type chinstrap that is claimed to be (and is) adjustable even wearing thick gloves. When the ratchet is down or locked it is a very strong and secure fastening. To release the strap, lift the Red buckle lever up and the lock opens.

Helmet Standards – the helmet provided for this review is DOT (FMVSS No. 218) Certified. Globally the helmet has ECE 22.05 certification and other standards required for specific markets.

Face Shield & Sun Visor – both the shield and sun visor are claimed to block 99% of harmful rays. The CJ-2 face shield exceeds Z87.1 / VESC-8. The sun visor is tested to DIN EN 1836 standard and meets ANSI Z80.3-2010 standards for non-prescription eyeglasses.

Sena SRL2 BT System for Shoei Helmets

The Sena SRL2 modular system features: Bluetooth v4.1 (BLE w/EDR), BT intercom range of up to 1.6km 1.0mi, eight-way/group/universal intercom capabilities, audio multitasking, FM radio, music sharing, voice command, advanced noise control, Sena remote control support, smartphone app, firmware upgradeability, and water-resistant build.

Sena SRL2 Package Contents:

• Headset Main Unit
• Wired boom and thin wire microphones for open/flip and full-face helmets
• 2 x Microphone Sponges (Socks)
• 1 x Hook n Loop Fastener for Thin Wire Microphone
• 1 x micro-USB to USB-A Power & Data Cable (117cm or 46in long)
• Pocket Quick Start Guide, one each in English, French, Spanish, Italian and German
• Pocket SRL2 Certification and Safety Precautions References, multi-language

Sena SRL2 Harness Overview

The Sena SRL2 system is a small lightweight well-designed assembly with modular components tied together by left and right harnesses integrated into the BT battery module that fits into the (covered) compartment at the back of the helmet.

The right harness is for the (right) speaker, microphone connection and antenna housing cover while the left harness is for the (left) speaker and three-button control module, cleverly disguised as the left plastic cover. The kit should be simple to install; time to find out.

SRL2 Installation Overview

The Sena SRL2 compatibility guide for Shoei helmets can be seen below or accessed by scanning the QR code of the retail product box.

Guide from Shoei

The Quick Start Guide provided gives you sequenced visuals for installing the kit in two helmet types – Flip Up and Full Face, with the downloadable Users Guide providing both text and diagrams for increased detail.

References & Tools Used

The Sena SRL2 Quick Start Guide or full Users Guide (PDF), Shoei J-Cruise II Manual (PDF), the Shoei Service Tool – found tucked inside the J-Cruise II manual (a small flat-edge screwdriver with protective tape over its edge works to protect plastic pieces as well) and, a camera.

Basic SRL2 Installation Steps

1. Remove the left/right lower side black plastic covers – push the center tabs in towards the helmet and use the tool to leverage the cover-up and away (snap-fit, guide-slot pieces)

2. Remove the back center cover – push the tab firmly in towards the helmet and once disengaged, work the cover-up from the front and back (a center insert fits against the helmet shell) and remove the cavity foam

3. Pull the fitted earpads from the speaker recesses

4. Remove the headliner and cheek pads from their snap fasteners and lower edge inserts; mark, note or take pictures of things as needed for reassembly

5. Optional – face shield removal, per the J-Cruise II Manual, done to (a) see how it worked and (b) get it out of the way while working (minimize component stress and scratches)

6. Remove the SRL2 headset from its plastic holder and with the helmet in a work rest, lay the headset out at the back of the helmet – pieces are etched ‘L’ and ‘R’ to facilitate things

7. Align the (arrowhead-shaped) keyed boom microphone connector to its counterpart on the right speaker housing and gently push them together

8. Insert the right speaker and then the microphone into the respective grooves – tabs on the boom align to the grooves for a foolproof (and correct) fitment

9. Align and slide the right plastic piece (the antenna housing) into the corresponding grooves and snap the piece firmly into place

10. Align and slide the left plastic piece (the control module) into the corresponding grooves and snap the piece firmly into place

11. Route and carefully tuck the wiring along with the left and right plastic (insert) clips into place between the external and internal shell layers

12. Install the cheek pad pieces, starting at back, or front and once seated, click the two-per-side snap fasteners into place, check the wiring is not pulled/strained and tucked away

13. Harness wires on each side can be tucked out of sight between the soft silicone lower trim and bottom of helmet

14. Replace the face shield and make sure it is fully seated and functional

15. Admire handiwork, set-up SRL2 BT system (see below) and go riding…

Bottom line here – all the installation steps got completed without issue. Total time required was about 60 minutes.

Initial Configuration & Use of the SRL2 BT System

The Sena SRL2 BT system is based on the standard Sena architecture and firmware. The three-button control module is easy to use (heavy gloves use might be more difficult) and functions well detailed in the packaged and downloadable Sena SRL2 User Guide . As such, only some initial steps information is provided here – encouragement to ‘read the manual’…

Battery charging – if not done previously, access the small silicone cover on the back module, connect the micro-USB cable to an applicable charging point and wait for the Red (charging) of the small LED to go Blue (charged). 

Turning system On or Off – press the front (+) and middle controls simultaneously, “Preparing Headset” and the ascending tone sequence, then “Hello”. Repeat the button sequence to turn the headset off – “Goodbye” and the descending tone sequence is heard.

Device pairing – turn the SRL2 on, press the middle button for 12 seconds until high-tone double beeps and “Configuration Menu” is heard. Within two (2) seconds, tap the (+) button until the LED goes Red/Blue, multiple beeps will be heard and “Phone pairing”. Find the SRL2 listing on the device’s BT pairing list and initiate pairing, once paired “Your headset is paired” is heard.

Sena Smartphone App – there are lots of Sena Apps listed for both iOS and Android devices, but the (newer) Sena Utility App (current v2.5) is the listed and recommended general-purpose App to use with multiple settings and functions (shown below).

Summary: Outstanding. The Shoei/Sena collaboration results in what is an outstanding example of near-invisible integration blending style, form and function; other riders typically don’t even notice that a BT headset is installed…until the right-side mounted microphone is spotted.

All the initial positive observations about the new for 2020 Shoei J-Cruise II helmet are now well-validated based on continued use in both warm and cool climes.

Styling, aerodynamics, coverage, and comfort are standouts for this helmet and in use, its often hard to tell that this is a three-quarter helmet not a full face or modular; its coverage and functionality is that good.

Between helmet features and coverage and with a good high collar cool weather riding jacket worn, in many cockpit environments, coverage is almost complete regarding undesired chilling air sneaking in from the bottom unless the face shield is set to its first détente.

Helmet and BT system integration – where the desire for a custom design feature often leads to compromises and less than ideal results, the Shoei/Sena collaboration is a stylish seamless blending of form, fit and function; the whole system, less the low profile and very functional control module buttons is absorbed into the lines of the helmet; mission accomplished.

Bottom Line: First use of the new for 2020 Shoei J-Cruise II was positive and with this update its all still positive; no errors and lots of runs for a high score. I’ve been searching for ‘the’ three-quarter helmet solution for some time – this helmet ends the search. The Shoei J-Cruise II with integrated Sena BT headset is an outstanding helmet and is highly recommended.

• Updated design, features and styling – great solid looking helmet
• Build and component strength & functionality
• Excellent solid color finish & durable clear coat
• Face shield has outstanding aerodynamics, extended coverage, distortion free, positive locking features
• Sun visor with excellent coverage, distortion free, easy to use
• Optional Sena SRL2 BT system, easy to install, perfect fit, very functional
• Still a hefty open face helmet
• Frontal curve & close-fitting interior needs appreciating when putting helmet on and off 
• Slider control overlay piece not well fitted
• Manufacturer: SHOEI
• Price (when tested): $549.99 USD, typically $749.99 CAD
• Styles/Colors: Gloss Black, Luminous White, Matte Black, Matte Blue, Anthracite
• Graphics: none
• Sizes: 2XS (51-52cm), XS (53-54cm), SM (55-56cm), MD (57-58cm), LG (59-60cm), XL (61-62cm), 2XL (63-64cm) and 3XL (65-66cm)
• Warranty: Five years
• Review Date: First Look – December 2019 to January 2020, Updated May 2020

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J-Cruise II

The SHOEI J-Cruise II is a premium open-face helmet that offers an exceptional blend of comfort, style, and safety. It features an advanced aerodynamic shell, superior ventilation, and an integrated sun shield. Ideal for urban riders and tourers seeking top-notch quality and performance.

• Lightweight, Advanced Integrated Matrix Shell
• Micro Ratchet Quick Release Chin Strap
• QSV-2 Internal Sun Shield System
• CJ-2 Face Shield System
• Standards: DOT-218
• Construction: AIM (Advanced Integrated Matrix) Shell
• Weight: 3.53 lbs (Based on Size Medium)

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The SHOEI J-Cruise II helmet is a top-tier open-face helmet that caters to riders who prefer the freedom of an open-face design without compromising on safety and comfort.

Key Features:

• Advanced Shell Design : The J-Cruise II is crafted with SHOEI's proprietary AIM (Advanced Integrated Matrix) shell, which is both lightweight and robust, offering excellent protection while minimizing fatigue during long rides.
• Aerodynamic Properties : Its aerodynamically refined design ensures stability and reduces wind noise, making it ideal for high-speed cruising and urban commuting alike.
• Superior Ventilation : Equipped with a sophisticated ventilation system, the helmet allows for optimal airflow, reducing heat and moisture to keep the rider cool and comfortable.
• Integrated Sun Shield : A standout feature is its large, easily retractable internal sun shield, providing instant relief from sun glare with an anti-fog and anti-scratch coating for clear vision.
• Comfortable Interior : The 3D Max-Dry interior system is fully removable, washable, and replaceable. The material is designed to absorb and dissipate sweat quickly, enhancing comfort during long rides.
• Noise Reduction : Engineered to reduce wind noise while still allowing important ambient sounds, the J-Cruise II offers a quiet and enjoyable ride.
• Safety Compliance : It meets or exceeds DOT standards, ensuring top-notch protection.
• Vision and Face Shield : The helmet features a wide, distortion-free CNS-3 face shield that provides a clear view of the road and is Pinlock-ready for fog resistance.
• Customization Options : Available in a variety of colors, it allows riders to express their style while enjoying premium protection.

The SHOEI J-Cruise II is a perfect fusion of modern technology and comfort, designed for riders who demand the best in open-face helmet performance.

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Shoei J-Cruise II Review

The Shoei J-Cruise II is the updated version of the J-Cruise helmet. The helmet has a particularly unique design and comes with advanced tech found in Shoe’s modular and full-face helmets.

You’ll find a better field of view because of the wider visor, which also protects you from the sun. Also, it allows you to fit the Sena SRL2 BT kit, which is almost invisible when installed, offering you great communication. If you need deeper insights, you can check the complete Shoei J-Cruise 2 review below.

Outer shell and design

Fastening method, ventilation.

You’ll find the AIM shell construction tech in Shoei’s J-Cruise II. The AIM construction comprises organic and glass fiber offering a flexible, strong yet lightweight structure. The Shoei J-Cruise II is an open-face helmet with the benefits of a full-face helmet.

J-Cruise II comes with four shell sizes: MD, LG, XS-SM, XL-2XL, and weighs around 3.76 lbs. So, it’ll fit almost every head size and is lightweight too. When it comes to the color options, you’re going to get black, matte black, white, anthracite, and blue. So, there are a lot of good options available.

The fact that the helmet is Snell M2020D approved and DOT certified talks for itself. Both these standards mean a lot when it comes to helmet safety. So, when you buy a J-Cruise II, you can expect supreme safety.

Inner lining

When it comes to lining, Shoei J-Cruise II completely justifies the premium price. The J-Cruise II comes with an easily removable skull cap and cheek pads. Also, you’ll find press studs used for positioning and hidden tabs that allow a clean and snug fit around the neck.

Every lining material is a blend of silky fabric, fleece, and waffle weave. The silky fabric helps reduce friction, the fleece offers comfort and warmth, and the waffle-weave helps in better cooling and airflow. Also, the bottom of the check pad comes with a vinyl finishing which keeps the water at bay while driving in the rain.

And if that’s not enough, J-Cruise II has a sheathed strap with removable fleece. So, you can wash it whenever you feel like it. However, you won’t find any quick-release cheek pads as it’s easy to open an open-face helmet. Based on Shoei J-Cruise 2 reviews given by customers, the lining offers decent comfort and protection to the user.

The J-Cruise II comes with a micro ratchet fastener that offers five adjustment positions. You can adjust it further using the standard slide on your chin strap. Now, how can you beat that? You can easily lift the release tab for releasing the strap. It’s quite similar to releasing the seat belt in an aircraft.

When compared to the Double D-ring method, this method takes a bit more adjustment. However, once you adjust it, you can easily do the fastening even while wearing those winter gloves. Also, if you wish you wear balaclavas or buffs, there are enough adjustments available.

The CJ – 2 visor offers three detents:

• Fully closed
• Four-fifths closed

With a J-Cruise II, you’ll get pin-lock mounts for CJ-2 Pinlock Evo Insert. However, you need to purchase it separately. Also, there’s an inner sun-visor (QSV-2) which is retractable and protects you from the halo effect. So, you can expect decent protection from the sun.

The J-Cruise II features water and windproof visor seal. It’s definitely better than the previous variant, as Shoei has redesigned the visor seal in this variant.

You may think, why would an open-face helmet require ventilation. But it’s quite important. It’s because when you lock the full-face visor, very little air enters the helmet.

However, you’ll find ample ventilation with this helmet. Three top vents offer a 3-position slide action: close, open, and midpoint. These vents work pretty well in coordination with the exhaust vent found on the back.

Sometimes, you may find a quick mist buildup on cold mornings. However, a pin-lock insert will help you deal with it easily.

For an open face variant, J-Cruise II is surprisingly quiet. What’s the reason? Well, it’s because of the chin spoiler and compound curves. So, if you keep the visor down, you won’t experience unnecessarily loud noises.

In case you partially or completely adjust the visor, there’ll be quite a lot of noise, obviously. However, if you consider my advice, wearing earplugs while driving will solve this problem. So, in terms of noise, you can rely on this helmet.

One of the most striking features of J-Cruise II is its ability to fit the SRL Bluetooth intercom system by Sena. So, you can stay connected with fellow riders or maybe your wife on the go. However, you’ll have to purchase the Bluetooth communication system separately.

Shoei has never disappointed us when it comes to helmets. And Cruise II is enough to prove that fact. It offers everything a bike rider needs, whether you’re on a small route or a large one. From safety, comfort, and quality to communication, Shoei J-Cruise II comes with it all.

And this is everything you can expect from a good helmet. So, if you’re looking for a premium helmet that protects you from impact, sun, and air and is equipped with the latest tech, you must opt for Shoei J-Cruise II. I hope this Shoei J-Cruise II helmet review was informative enough to help you make the right choice.

• The sun visor offers decent protection from the sun and also allows enough space for you to wear goggles
• The helmet offers great ventilation which makes it good for sunny days
• Some users find the helmet quite heavy and bulky
• The helmet is not as safe as a full-face helmet.

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Modular & 3/4 helmet decision

Discussion in ' Equipment ' started by ReganRides , Jan 1, 2024 .

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ReganRides Adventurer

I want to buy a modular helmet for long touring & a lighter 3/4 helmet for around town during summer. I basically narrowed it down to these four groups: 1) Shoei Neotec 2 & Shoei J-Cruise 2) Bell SRT modular & Bell Mag 9 (or Bell Custom 500) 3) HJC RPHA 91 & HJC RPHA 31 4) HJC i90 & HJC i30 * I’ve tried on the Shoei & Bells so far. Both fit me really well. The Shoeis’ were slightly more comfortable with their premium materials & price. FF HJC helmets haven’t fit me in the past, but I haven’t tried their modular or 3/4 helmets yet. I know fit is subjective cause everyone’s head is shaped differently, but does anyone have any experience with any of these helmets? Good or bad…All thoughts welcome. Thanks!

blender Just another rider

I have a 6yo Neotec 2 that fits me well (Shoies' have always fit me). However, it is now 6yo and I'll likely replace it this year. Shoie has released the Neotec 3 altho as-of today it's not yet available in the U.S. If a Shoie fits your head you might be able to find a Neotec 2 at close-out prices. The Neotech face shields are $$$, keep that in mind if your shields go thru abuse. Other than that my Neotec has held up great over many K's of miles. I *really* like the drop-down sun visor, altho many other modular helmets are now including that feature. Edit: One more thing about the Neotech 2, I found to R&R the face shield is a PITA, it takes me multiple attempts and a couple of Bad Words to get it to click in. I’m expecting V3 to be the same.

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Not to be that guy, but 40% of head "hits" in a motorcycle accident happen to the lower jaw. It's incredibly ugly to see the aftermath of those kinds of hits. You do you.

szurszewski Long timer

My son's first proper touring helmet was an SRT modular and it held up really well. If you liked the fit and didn't want to spend bigger bucks I think it would be a good choice. I've run a few Scorpion modulars over the last decade and been happy with them, so I may have lower fanciness standards than some. (I do have an Arai for when I want to feel really sporty - it's "nicer" than the Scorpions for sure, but I'm usually too lazy to forgo the modular convenience.) For my last purchase (2022) I did try on all the high end options but ended up with another Scorpion (a non-US-offered modular that flips the chinbar all the way back). The Neotec was the comfiest of the "standard" modular helmets I tried and would have likely got one if I didn't *really* want a flipback chinbar.

RatBikeRandy Been here awhile

Have you considered one of the 180 degree modular helmets? I just purchased the LA2 Advant X full flip helmet and really like it. modular and 3/4 helmet in one. Examples LS2 Advant HJC i100 Shark

9w6vx Memento Vivere

@RatBikeRandy , I am considering a LS2 Advant FF901 or the Advant FF906. Could you share your thoughts on the fit and usage of the said helmet? Thanks

Drif10 Accredited Jackass

Been through a few modulars myself. Bmw system 3, Schuberths, couple of Neotec 2s now. Totally agree about shields. If you're in Canada, they're 20% off at F9 right now, btw. I really like the Neo for fit. 3 pad sizes within your shell size, same 3 options for the upper part. Might cost you a couple of tries like I did before I got the right fit. Ride 40k/yr, so comfortable is a big deal to me. All that to say if your head fits in a Neo, it's a really flexible choice. I'm getting the Neo 3 as the next one. Just hoping for a bit more venting flow....

9w6vx said: ↑ @RatBikeRandy , I am considering a LS2 Advant FF901 or the Advant FF906. Could you share your thoughts on the fit and usage of the said helmet? Thanks Click to expand...

@RatBikeRandy , Thanks. I have a 60cm head and use a XL in the HJCRPHA90 and a L in a Shoei Z7/RF1200 and according to LS2 chart 60cm should be a L. Not sure if it the Advant fits true to size. I can't physically test them as the local dealers here don't carry the Advant so it has to be an online purchase. What's the circumference of your head?

c-m Long timer

If I was buying a new modular now I'd skip Schuberth their QC is poor. I noticed this one my second E1. It certainly isn't as sturdy and made as well as my original E1. The GF bought a C5 and the visor won't close. Tabs need filing to make it work. HJC have been poor in the past two, but supposed to be better these days. The RPHA 91 is supposed to be the quested helmet ever tested by Champion Helmets. In modular mode the chin bar is also more low profile than others due to the way the mechanism works. It's heavy though. The Shoei Neotech 3 is one of the nicest modulars I've held/tried from a quality stand point. I don't like the tiny straps though, they are partially berried meaning it's more of a pain to pick up and up on then others. It's also heavy.

9w6vx said: ↑ @RatBikeRandy , Thanks. I have a 60cm head and use a XL in the HJCRPHA90 and a L in a Shoei Z7/RF1200 and according to LS2 chart 60cm should be a L. Not sure if it the Advant fits true to size. I can't physically test them as the local dealers here don't carry the Advant so it has to be an online purchase. What's the circumference of your head? Click to expand...

One other note. My wife's head does not fit the LS2 shape and prefers HJC. She just got the HJC i100 full flip model and it is a nice helmet. The Hyper Silver color is on sale at many retailers for around $189 where the other colors are still close to $300. I did try one in a L and it fit OK, but I prefer the LS2 fit and ratchet latch. If I didn't have one, the HJC at $189 is a smoking deal in my opinion. It looks really nice in the Hyper Silver in my opinion.

KingOfFleece said: ↑ Not to be that guy, but 40% of head "hits" in a motorcycle accident happen to the lower jaw. It's incredibly ugly to see the aftermath of those kinds of hits. You do you. Click to expand...

@RatBikeRandy , Thanks again for all the info. Much appreciated! Cheers

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QSV-2 Sun Visor

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Shoei J-Cruise 2 vs Arai SZ-R VAS Jet Helmet Road Test and Video

How does the Shoei J-Cruise 2 stack up against the Arai SZ-R VAS? Find out in today’s Champion Helmets road test!

The Shoei J-Cruise 2 and the Arai SZ-R VAS , known as the Arai Ram-X in the US, are two giants of the open face helmet world, both are premium top tier helmets in the jet helmet field. Both of these helmets have impressive pedigrees with the Shoei J-Cruise II coming from the already popular J-Cruise and the Arai SZR VAS dates back all the way to the late 1980s with frequent additions to the SZ model in between. Both are also offering the best of their respective companies with the SZ-R VAS sharing features that you also have on the Arai RX-7V , their top racing helmet. The Shoei JCruise 2 be coming in at a recommended retail price of about 480 Euros, or about 530 US Dollars, while the Arai SZRVAS is about 600 Euros, or around 660 US Dollars, so that’s a 220 Euro difference already. These helmets will also compete with the Schuberth M1 Pro . So, let’s get going.

Shoei J-Cruise 2 Specs

First, just a few quick facts for the Shoei J-Cruise Two . The J-Cruise II’s aerodynamic shell is made of Shoei’s Advanced Integrated Matrix (AIM) for advanced shell strength, wind noise reduction, and weight reduction, it’ll come in weighing at about 1370 grams for weight in a size M. This helmet is also coming in at a decent 3 outer shell sizes, and has an intermediate oval head shape. For ventilation, there are 3 top air intakes, which are all adjustable, and 2 outlets out the back to let warm air escape. The visor is distortion free and is pinlock prepared though the anti-fog insert is not in the box, but it is anti-scratch. The Shoei JCruiseII also comes with an integrated sun visor operated by a slide on the helmet’s side to help stop UV rays. Lastly, for the lining, it’s removable, washable, anti-bacterial, fits glasses, and comfortable. This helmet model is also ready for the addition of the SENA SRL 2 Bluetooth Communication system with the addition of speaker spaces behind the cheek pads. Now, let’s see how it does on the road.

Shoei J-Cruise 2 Road Test

Just a quick reminder for how we measure our road tests. We took the helmet’s internal temperature, in degrees C, through a thermometer placed in the central ventilation channel. For noise, we used a decibel meter with readings based on a microphone near our rider’s ear. Lastly we used an anemometer to take the day’s average wind speed.

We tested the J-Cruise 2 out on long stretches of highway at 130 km/h. The day’s average wind speed ranged from 110 km/h to 130 km/h. The day’s external temperature was about 5 degrees C, while the helmet’s internal temperature was about 6 degrees C, so that’s a difference of 1 degree Celsius. Lastly, for noise, the helmet came in at about 106 decibels, which is loud, but this is expected with a jet helmet.

It was a cold wintry day but we still found the J-Cruise 2 performed very well and it’s ventilation and EPS grooves already proved to be working well. Though most of you won’t be riding with jet helmets out in the winter, the temperatures speak for themselves, it’s great to see this reconfigured ventilation system already showing its merit and it will do well for the warmer riding season. For a brief note, we actually found the Shoei slightly more comfortable in the Arai SZ-R VAS and the sunshade came in especially handy with the day’s low winter sun, which produces a lot of glare.

Our rider also found the helmet to be aerodynamically stable, which is also a good thing for the J-Cruise 2.

Our rider found the helmet was comfortable and very user friendly in terms of both the visor and the sun visor. He also said it ventilated well and the biggest failing was that the J Cruise 2 did not come with the anti-fog pinlock insert in the box. It was also a noisy helmet, though this is not surprising for a jet helmet.

Arai SZ-R VAS Facts

Now, just a few specs on the Arai SZ-R VAS . This face helmet from Arai is made of Arai’s Peripherally Belted complex laminate construction with super fibre laminates, this shows Arais focus on design improving the protection offered by the helmet. This helmet also comes in 3 shell sizes, has an intermediate oval head fit, and does well for weight, weighing about 1350 grams in a size M. The SZ-R VAS also comes from Arai with an advanced ventilation system, you’re getting three vents in the top of the helmet, inspired by the Arai RX7V’s ventilation system and this hot air will come outside and rear exhausts in the helmet. The top two exhausts can be opened and closed as well using two small switches. The visor features Arai's latest VAS design improving on previous mechanisms. The visor is pinlock prepared, but the insert needs to be purchased separately as well as the small sun shield face shield. For the liner, the SZ-R VAS has a removable, washable, and anti-bacterial liner, and it fits glasses too. Now, let’s see how it stacks up against the Shoei.

Arai SZ-R VAS Road Test

We took this helmet out on the same winter day, and we still had a bit of sun. Our rider travelled at about 130 km/h on long stretches of highway during our test. For the day’s wind speed, it ranged from about 110 km/h to 130 km/h. The day’s outside temperature was a cool 7 degrees Celsius while the helmet’s internal temperature was about 6 degrees, so a difference of 1 degree, which is excellent. For noise, the SZ-R VAS is a jet helmet so it is noisy, with about 107 decibels, though this is 1 decibel louder than the Shoei J-Cruise II, this again shows that there is a reason why we call these jet helmets.

Our rider found the Arai SZ-R VAS to be a very comfortable helmet and you could feel the quality of the liner. He also found it to be slightly quieter than the Shoei J-Cruise 2 jet helmet though it was one decibel louder. However, the biggest let down considering the high price of this helmet was it requires a drop down sun shade to be purchased separately and the pinlock insert lens is also not included. This sun shade would have come in very useful on a day like today since there was a low winter sun and while a sun shade would have rounded this helmet out nicely, it was lacking. Now, onto our stars.

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For material, since the SZ-R VAS is made of Arai’s complex laminate construction and comes in 3 shell sizes, that’s 4 stars. For the Shoei, the shell is Shoei’s AIM material and comes in 3 shell sizes, so that’s another 4 stars. For weight, since the Arai is a light helmet weighing at 1350 grams that’s 5 stars and since the J-Cruise 2 is coming in at 1370 that also another 5. For the visor, since both the Arai and the Shoei feature a pinlock prepared visor but no insert in the box, that’s 3 stars. For ventilation, since the Arai helmet was 1 degree cooler than the outside, which is an excellent result, that’s a full 5 stars. While the J-Cruise 2 was 1 degree hotter, so that’s 4 stars. Unsurprisingly, for noise, both helmets only get one star. Lastly, for comfort, we found the SZ-R VAS to be very comfortable, leading to 4 stars for both helmets though our rider found the Shoei to be slightly more comfortable. This brings the SZ-R VAS to a total of 3.5 stars at 27 Euros/star. While this is a decent result, this is a high Euro/star rating considering it doesn’t come with a pinlock insert lens and you have to buy the sun shade separately. However, you are getting the enhanced Arai safety factor. For the Shoei, the J-Cruise 2 gets a total of 3.5 stars at 23 Euros/star, which is much lower than the Arai and shows a better value for money with the integrated sun visor included with the helmet, as well as a lower overall price.

If you’d like to purchase the Shoei J-Cruise 2 or the Arai SZR VAS , then make sure to head to ChampionHelmets.com where we have a lowest price guarantee and great bundle deals!

Both the Shoei J-Cruise 2 and the Arai SZ-R VAS are top of the range jet helmets. While they’re both certainly priced as such, their comfort level also reflects this. However, with a Euro per star rating of 23, a lower overall price, and an integrated sun visor, the Shoei J-Cruise 2 appears to be offering a better deal while the Arai is offering more premium safety and ventilation aspects. If you’ve still got questions, make sure to check out our Shoei J-Cruise 2 vs Arai SZ-R VAS Road Test, and if you liked the video, make sure to hit subscribe!

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Hi Guys, I own a 2009 K 1200 LT with 11000 miles. Four weeks ago my ABS light came on ( flashing 4hz) with the solid warning signal. I took it to a BMW Dealer here in Houston for a Diagnostic after 5 hours they told me the "Pressure modulator,full Z needs to be replaced Part # 028 34517685788 cost $ 2449.16. What a shock... but what get's me the most is, there is no new replacement part available until "FEB. 2014" I have been on the Phone with BMW of north America for the last 2 weeks and have gotten nowhere. Has anyone ever experienced anything like this before?  

Scary! Very Scary!!! So my question is, does the bike still ride-able? Does brakes function without having the ABS functionality? Good luck and please let us know the outcome?  

I will give you $8500 for the bike.  

Volker - where did you take it? Gulf Coast, Mancuso, somewhere else?  

Hey, I took it to Gulf coast BMW and they stayed in touch with BMW of north America. Gulf Coast has been very fair to me and I cannot say anything bad about them. However who does not do ANYTHING is BMW of north America I have been on the Phone with them for two weeks everyday and have gotton nowhere. I just cant understand them running out of parts completly.  

CaptJDavis said: Scary! Very Scary!!! So my question is, does the bike still ride-able? Does brakes function without having the ABS functionality? Good luck and please let us know the outcome? Click to expand...

I remember somewhere in the last couple weeks where someone was saying a hydraulic company rebuilds them for about $500. I wish I could remember where I saw it. Do a search. I found it. It's Module Masters in Idaho. Here's a forum link that discuses it! Sgroover is the member that posted it there. Let us know what you find out! http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80929&highlight=brake+module  

Rebuild and repair on this unit? No Problem they do that. But is in Europa, maybe by Airmail? http://rhelectronics.de/ Manfred  

TeddyTelco said: "BMW.... the new AMF Harley Davidson. " That's flippin scary. I had an old AMF HD and I now have a 09... Click to expand...

Sorry for your "loss" and understand well you being upset - so would I be under similar circumstances! One thing which seems to really be deep is the big "pond" in between Europe and Good Old US. Do not want to rub salt on your wounds, but on this side of the pond one of the reasons I like Beemer over Japanese ones is the availability of spares. The longest time I have been waiting for *any* spare (even from Germany) has been 9 days. All normal parts needed for replacing some broken technique come within a week. Normal "wear" parts are in local deelers store. The longest wait times I have heard have been couple of months but then it has been a case of waiting some pre-painted fairing parts. This problem of yours with ABS-unit must be due to sub-contractor manufacturing the brake unit. Trust they are not making that unit themselves. Of course one can criticise them of having poor supply of spares - I would.  

VolkerM said: Hey, I took it to Gulf coast BMW and they stayed in touch with BMW of north America. Gulf Coast has been very fair to me and I cannot say anything bad about them. However who does not do ANYTHING is BMW of north America I have been on the Phone with them for two weeks everyday and have gotton nowhere. I just cant understand them running out of parts completly. Click to expand...

ModuleMaster 2006 South Main Moscow, ID 83843-8913 Local:*208-892-0764 Toll free:*888-892-0764Hours:*8am-5pm M-F (PST) Try Module master. Heard somewhere they worked on the abs units for our bikes. Not certain. Had them rebuild my unit on my BMW 5 series back sometime ago and turn around time was within days. Great work if they can do it. http://www.modulemaster.com/en/index.php  

What cause this problem? Just bad luck or was this a preventable issue? If so, what could've been done? I mean why a high-tech part on a flagship model of a brand like BMW goes bad only after 11,000 miles without any neglect or accident? I mean if this is more than one or two incidents doesn't it supposed to be looked at as a catastrophic safety malfunction and what else BMW is saying other than "oh well, tough luck"?  

CaptJDavis said: What cause this problem? Just bad luck or was this a preventable issue? If so, what could've been done? I mean why a high-tech part on a flagship model of a brand like BMW goes bad only after 11,000 miles without any neglect or accident? I mean if this is more than one or two incidents doesn't it supposed to be looked at as a catastrophic safety malfunction and what else BMW is saying other than "oh well, tough luck"? Click to expand...

Is that with after market hoses or with the stock hoses?  

Regarding why these fail, Module Masters told me that the components in the unit aren't great quality. They are working on sourcing the parts to rebuild the hydraulics and servos with good quality parts. They told me in Oct that they hoped to be up and running on the 2005-2009 iABS module rebuild in Dec 2013. They thought it would be around $500 with a 3 to 5 year warranty, but those details had not been finalized when I last spoke with them. Other thoughts I've heard on why they fail is that the ABS portion of the unit needs to be "worked" every so often to keep the plunger from becoming stuck, etc. They say that the BMW shops (and maybe the GS-911 tool for home use...) can "work" or cycle the ABS unit when hooked to the computer during a regular maintenance. Of course, as John states, flushing the system is always recommended and should be done regularly. I removed my whole system in Oct after it failed. I wanted to ride this Fall while waiting on MM to begin the rebuild process in Dec(?). I removed the module, took the electronic section off and re-hooked it up to the bike (wrapped it in self-sealing nylon tape - so the speedo, lights, etc would work). Re-plumbed the whole brake system with SS Spiegler brake lines (custom set - direct from master cylinder to the calibers). Pulled the ABS relay to stop the flashing light. I have really enjoyed the quiet, strong, hydraulic brakes. I miss not having ABS (knowing it's there if/when needed...), but that's all I miss. Sammy  

Kind of bumping an old thread but I'm curious what the process for ordering the Custom Spiegler lines was. Do they already have it as a cutom kit for the LT? I've got an '06 with the same issue and pending the ability of Module Masters to rebuild the ABS unit I'm considering bypassing and going manual on the brakes.  

Hey Sammy, Please post their info here so we can have the chance to contact them if the need arises or I will be needing your services to convert mine to non-ABS if it ever fails... :histerica  

cbpip said: ModuleMaster 2006 South Main Moscow, ID 83843-8913 Local:*208-892-0764 Toll free:*888-892-0764Hours:*8am-5pm M-F (PST) Try Module master. Heard somewhere they worked on the abs units for our bikes. Not certain. Had them rebuild my unit on my BMW 5 series back sometime ago and turn around time was within days. Great work if they can do it. http://www.modulemaster.com/en/index.php Click to expand...

Duh for me! :rotf: Thanks... I guess I can't watch TV and follow a forum thread at the same time anymore... Oh well, the benefits of getting old!  

Here is a email reply I got from Module Masters concerning my inquiry. Hi Ron, You didn't say what year your bike is. We can't do all bikes, so it depends on the year, unless you know for sure it is the ABS II. If it is the ABS II, the repair is $350.00 + return shipping. Mari Module Master / Circuit Solutions 208.892.0764 www.modulemaster.com 2006 S Main Moscow, ID 83843  

late 2004 and up have integral brake modules in them. Module Masters can not repair them yet. They are working on getting the parts.  

captw3 said: late 2004 and up have integral brake modules in them. Module Masters can not repair them yet. They are working on getting the parts. Click to expand...

saddleman said: Actuality it is the 2002 model years & up. Click to expand...

I posted a similar problem here: http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80929&highlight=ABS+brake+failure The bike has been in the shop for 6 weeks now with no end in site.  

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