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By mwy1964 August 6, 2008 in Series Forum

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Hi all, I have a Safari roof currently on my series 3 that I will be swapping for a standard roof. I keep hearing that Safari roofs are fairly uncommon and perhaps even sought after.

Anyway I am not sure if the roof has been created by a previous owner to look like a Safari roof and was looking for information here prior to getting rid of it.

The reason I think it has been fabricated is, it appears to have no internal vents to let the air into the car, which I am positive, looking at pictures of other Safari roofed Land Rovers, it should have. The roof also had a roof lining when I purchased that looked factory fitted.

If it has been fabricated someone has done a very good job as the panel is well fitted. So I suppose the questions is did all Safari roofed cars have internal air vents. The car is a 1983 series 3 SWB.

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In Portugal is common to see safari roofs without the vents.

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Thanks for the feedback so far... I have had a good look at it now and it seems to be too well done to have been fabricated by a previous owner... So just maybe they started fitting Safari roofs without vents in later models... Ala Portugal.

JBorges - Thanks for the piccie thats exactly as it looks minus your roofs battle scars... Mines actually in good knick just I would have kept it except I seeing it adding some additional drag factor and I do not see much call for it when working my gundog October thru till Jan..

In fact we have 3 types of safaris roofs:

- Hardtop + double skin

- Hardtop + double skin + alpines windows

- Hardtop + double skin + alpines windows + vents

In fact we have 3 types of safaris roofs: - Hardtop + double skin - Hardtop + double skin + alpines windows - Hardtop + double skin + alpines windows + vents

That would further explain it then as it was originally a standard hardtop van..

Thanks for the info

If it's in good nick and doesn't leak like a sieve (no vents), why ditch it? They are remarkably effective (by Land Rover standards) in dissipating heat.

Good point, I prefer the look of the standard roof. The car will be mainly used as a hardtop in the winter carrying me and the dog around shoots. The summer I plan to have sticks and canvas.

Oh safari roof i like it.

maybe this mount i can buy Land Rover s3 3 door on Chiang Mai THAILAND.

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On 8/6/2008 at 11:36 AM, JBorges said: In Portugal is common to see safari roofs without the vents. An example:

Hi guys! I have exactly the same tropical roof on my land rover (Series 2), but with alpine windows/vents. It has the fixed rounded back windows instead of the sliding windows more commonly seen. Does anyone know the history of this type of roof? Many thanks. Cheers. Pete.

Les ge some terminologies right - where the roof of the Series 1-3 has alpine lights etc this is a safari roof.  If the roof of the vehicle then has the extra sheet metal roof that sits about 1.5" above the roof to provide insulation this is called a tropical roof.  A safari roof also normally had vents in it and if also fitted with a tropical roof, the tropical roof had bulges in it so the vents could be opened.

So you can have a normal roof with a tropical roof on it and you can have a safari roof with no tropical roof on it or some you can.

My Series 1 with Safari Roof and Tropical Roof

My Series 3 with normal roof and Tropical Roof - but note the cutout and vents at the front - not standard.

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13 hours ago, garrycol said: My Series 1 with Safari Roof and Tropical Roof

That’s really nice!  88 isn’t it? 

Yes is a 57 88" Station Wagon. An exceptionally rare vehicle in Australia - a few 86" exist but I have only found one other 88" Station Wagon.

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Station wagon headlining Pics

• Thread starter Serious Series
• Start date Apr 27, 2018

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• Apr 27, 2018

Has anyone got any pics showing how station wagon headlining is fitted? Have a new SWB roof and front section has headlining in place would like to fit the rear part out the same. Have had the roof two months now awaiting better weather at this rate it will be winter before I get a start on it.  

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• Apr 29, 2018

Really nice work  

• Apr 30, 2018

Thanks Lads.  

Sorry been away out on the fells. Thanks for the pics so far Has anyone any pics of the metal parts especially how they are fitted to the roof as I will have to make the rear from scratch.  

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Cheers Mike, that looks different to my 110 I can’t drill through by my alpine lights there’s no rib to self tap into Cheers Craig  

• Apr 30, 2021

I’ll have a look to see if I have any pics of the frame. If not I’ll nip out and see if I can get some measurements off mine.  

• May 1, 2021

The front strip is the same as the side strips except that it curves down at the ends before it meets the side strips to give that curved look to the side parts of the headlining.  

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Related question, but a slight hi-jack, does anyone have any pics of the brackets that hold the 'official' front curved part on (roof to where the rear view mirror goes)? Mine was held on with 2 inch screws at a 45 degree angle into the screen corners. Seems wrong and there is a tiny tiny picture of something in the parts book, but i'd love to see a picture of them in the wild and some kind of idea how it's all meant to fix on. I have the 1 piece panel rather than the 2 piece affair if that makes a difference?  

SWBFreeLoader said: Related question, but a slight hi-jack, does anyone have any pics of the brackets that hold the 'official' front curved part on (roof to where the rear view mirror goes)? Mine was held on with 2 inch screws at a 45 degree angle into the screen corners. Seems wrong and there is a tiny tiny picture of something in the parts book, but i'd love to see a picture of them in the wild and some kind of idea how it's all meant to fix on. I have the 1 piece panel rather than the 2 piece affair if that makes a difference? Click to expand...

No, I have those parts, there looks to be a secondary bracket (in the parts book) that specifically goes between them (maybe) and the curved panel that covers the very front of the roof area.  

That's interesting, not seen those before, do you have a pull from the parts book so I can see what they look like?  

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Roof in body color and safari top panel in white.

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Help me decide, please! I like them both but can't make up my mind!!!  

I dig the green body w/ white roof, NTM it will make for a cooler(temp wise) interior  

Hi, I think the white top always looks good on the road, unless you use your car for bird / wildlife photography. I have painted my series 3 in Shire Blue with a white top. looks great. I have also painted over the galvinised bits in blue and the windscreen suround and center bar in matt black. photo can be seen in my profile Cheers Nilhan  

The white roof is original and I believe looks better.  

If you're still looking at the bronze green; I'd go with the factory option codes. I've got a SII, a SIIa, and a SIII dealer brochure; and all three have the same thing. Truck panels in Bronze green, heels in LimeStone, and safari top in White. Though I do like the above post idea of doing the safari top panel in LimeStone as well as the wheels. It would blend the truck together nicely. I would go Truck in Bronze green, top in Bronze green. Then the safari roof panel, and the wheels in LimeStone.  

Plus, considering the two states you frequent most, a lighter top would definitely be better for your interior temps.  

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the white looks good. but its a tough call.  

I think I may go against what I initially wanted to do (roof in body color and sun sheet in white) and go with the All White Roof. We'll see what happens.  

IIRC the white used on the roof IS called Limestone. There seems to be some difference in the colour scheme depending where your Land Rover was destined from the factory. It seems that world-wide the roof and top were always Limestone but In the UK & most of Europe, the panels around the windows were also Limestone. For the North American market, and I don't know where else, these panels were the body colour with the Limestone roof. Not always the case, but seems to be generally true.  

I do not think that you will find this is correct. The door tops are always the same colour as the body. On the short wheel bases, the rear side window panel may have been white as the short wheel bases where classed as a ute and the roof and side panels were options. The long wheel base station wagons only came with a roof and therefore all the window side panels were painted the same colour as the body. Most series roofs are white.  

If the photo is of your truck, it looks like the section has been painted (badly). If it is a 5 door, it would not have come from the factory like that, unless the roof has been taken from a white 5 door.  

It is a 5-door. everything from the galvanized cappings down has been painted over several times. But the roof and side panels are definitely still the original color.  

From your photo, they have been resprayed at least once. But it is not worth arguing about.  

:::vitual hand shake:::...lol Cool. The interior however is gorgeous...the bronze green is still vibrant under light.  

Like many-a-thing rover paint schemes vary...... But as a general rule on a series "station wagon" 88" swb rear window sides limestone/ matching the top. 109" lwb rear window sides body color/ matching the lower waist line and door tops of the vehicle. Cheers Dave  

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Original Colour Scheme was... Hi all, This is my first post, so please excuse me if I inadvertently break all the rules or offend everyone! I'm currently restoring a 1964 S2A 109 safari in the UK. I bought it as a well worn but very original car a few months ago. Apart from the safari roof which was white, the whole car was deep bronze green, including the "normal" roof - even the wheels were green. For my taste, it was a bit too much of one colour, so I'm going for the original scheme but I'm painting the wheels with Limestone. Note that the original white safari roof looked "white", but limestone is more beige than white, but I guess that 45 years of sun has bleached it. There should be a couple of photos uploaded. View attachment 18251 View attachment 18252 The second photo shows the ultra rare transparent version, only available at the start of April each year. Here's a question for all you rivet counters out there. What colour should the safari roof screws be? - the ones that join safari to the normal. Mine were totally rusted. TTFN C  

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• Thread starter new landy 3 man
• Start date May 25, 2019

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Good evening, everyone.could anyone suggest what would be the best way to cover to up the cab interior roof area of a swb series 3 as some idiot has stuck carpet tiles on previous and I have removed them but it has left a mess on the interior roof. Regards Steve  

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Hi , I had a similar situation , ended up buying a sheet of 1/2 " closed cell foam , used high temp carpet adhesive to glue it up ( Roof gets hot in summer even in UK) , and then covered that in grey van lining carpet , which is quite stretchy and moulds well into the curves . All requires a bit of pre planning , and patience and a spare pair of hands helps . I made a paper template to make sure I got the cut right first time, and did a dry run with the closed cell , using the roof gutter to keep the foam in place , and it hides the edges . Can be done to look really good , I'd say better than than the factory trim , Good luck  

I made a rigid roof liner out of 3 peices of corrugated plastic with the joins in line with the roof cappings. The sheets are carpeted and held in by ally strips screwed into the roof under cappings. They tuck over the roof lip at the front and sides.  

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• May 26, 2019

Whatever you use make sure it’s glued on with high temperature contact adhesive. The normal stuff turns back to sticky snot within months.  

Gave up on glue for that reason, mine is now screwed into place.  

• May 27, 2019

Thanks for your help chaps  

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Joining an old thread here. Does anyone know if you can buy replacement roof linings anywhere? My Series 3 has a safari roof and the whole lot is dreadful.  

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I took my hard top off and turned it upside down onto a blanket covered large pallet. I used some more old blankets to act as wedges to stop it rocking and secured it with rope tied to the pallet on the back corners and across the front. I had a half door sort of affair and that was zip tied shut. The whole thing did not take very long to set up and thus secured lining the roof was a doddle. I wish I had done the sides at the same time but I got distracted and then never got round to it. A key point about the glue is get as much ventilation around you as possible and set yourself up to be able to start and finish in one hit.  

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new landy 3 man said: I have removed them but it has left a mess on the interior roof. Click to expand...

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anyone had this before battery tray had a fair bit of water in it where would this be coming from

Open the trunk trim on the left and right. There are pipes draining water from the sunroof of the car. Apparently one of these tubes clogged and jumped out of the plastic corner which is installed in the body.After removing the skin of the trunk on the traces of water you will see.

what do you mean where are pipes located

Tiger wrote: Open the trunk trim on the left and right. There are pipes draining water from the sunroof of the car. Apparently one of these tubes clogged and jumped out of the plastic corner which is installed in the body.After removing the skin of the trunk on the traces of water you will see.

do i have to remove carpets to see them pipes or where are these exactly thanks

Tiger wrote: Check behind the rear doorways for these tubes. Left and right in the Luggage compartment. This is a water removal tube from the roof of the car

GOT THEM BUT WERE FINE THANK YOU

checked them but perfect all in tact and clear not blocked

And in the compartment under the battery, under the pneumatic compressor there is water?

yes but where is it coming from ,all sunroof drains are fine and checked , battery tray itself can get full of water , new boot seal ,sealed behind number plate

any other ideas where this might be coming from

Tiger wrote: And in the compartment under the battery, under the pneumatic compressor there is water?

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