1985 ski doo safari

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I was just wondering about the Ski-Doo Safaris. I wanted to know if they are good motor, good gas mileage, good performance, and basically maintenance-free. I was wondering what the a good price would be for an '85-'94 safari. It dosnt matter what model of safari it is, as long as the 377 motor has twin carbs. Thats a must. If someone could tell me what year and model of safaris had the twin carbs and what the top speed would be of this sled it would be great. SWRules  

Safaris can be had here around Barrie, Ontario for about $500. bucks or less. I'm talking about the 377's that are single carb, I'm not sure if the the 477's had twins or not but they are pretty much not worth anything around here unless you ice fish. Leaf springs and ziltch for suspension are there biggest downfall. I have a 85 safari right now that I have had since new and this sled had never let me down during the years I did ride it and I rode the snot out of it. It will go forever on a tank of gas, the only thing it cost me was a new starter rope and thats it. I do know the Citation SS had the same motor pretty much with the twin carbs and were a hoot in there time but these sleds are really outdated.  

Originally posted by BarrieMachZ @Feb 6 2003, 09:45 PM but they are pretty much not worth anything around here unless you ice fish. Leaf springs and zilch for suspension are there biggest downfall. Click to expand...

We sold our 93 377 Safari Deluxe this year. It was a twin carb and never let us down. It would run 80-85 flat out on a hard surface. It was a good beginner sled for my son who was 12 when we picked it up. It sold for 2000 with 3800 km on it and barely a scratch. It was always serviced and it showed. It rode good and handled OK on good trails. It wasn't much at off trail riding. It was very easy on gas. For a beginer sled or to tool around the farm it is great. For aggressive trail riding, no way. Mind you that big windshield kept you as warm as could be.  

Originally posted by revrnd+Feb 6 2003, 09:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td> QUOTE (revrnd @ Feb 6 2003, 09:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--BarrieMachZ @Feb 6 2003, 09:45 PM but they are pretty much not worth anything around here unless you ice fish. Leaf springs and zilch for suspension are there biggest downfall. Click to expand...

what year was yours BARRIEMACHZ?  

My uncle has an 88 377 and the only thing he has had to change in almost 15 years now is a track. the sled still starts on first pull everytime. it is still fast enough to keep up with alot of the new sleds. he still loves it. it has about 25,000 k on it . he dosen't do any road riding or he dosen't ride in low snow conditions. guess that is why he has never changed Hi-Fax.  

Fuzzy said: My uncle has an 88 377 and the only thing he has had to change in almost 15 years now is a track. the sled still starts on first pull everytime. it is still fast enough to keep up with alot of the new sleds. he still loves it. it has about 25,000 k on it . he dosen't do any road riding or he dosen't ride in low snow conditions. guess that is why he has never changed Hi-Fax. Click to expand...

Fuzzy: Does it have 2 carbs? Electric Start, hand/thumb warmers? Speedo? Tach? How fast has he had it going? Ok thanks.  

FREEZERBURNT: How was the Scout E on gas? What colour was it? Good performance??  

Yellow but mine was painted black by previous owner :hallo1: Some Safaries are black,some are yellow and some are burgundy Its a 377 so it runs great for a 377 it will do 100kmph They are good on gas  

One carb has a spedo no tach ,electric start or any other options like that.. track is a 118 or a 121 X 16 1/2 " don't know what spped he has had it at. it was a fast skidoo in it's day. the same cc cats and poos couldn't look at in speed or deep snow. he is thinking about getting a Gade next year so his son can use the 377. forgot to mention gas milage was excelent. before I got my sks I had a tundra and I would bunr two tanks of gas to his one. he gets about 15-17 MPG Click to expand...

Originally posted by mx_462 @Feb 8 2003, 10:20 AM What year was that revrnd? Just making sure i dont get that year. Are the citations just as good as safaris or should i take the safari? Click to expand...

How much would it cost for someone to put a second carb on say a '89 Safari 377?  

Would it increase the power much? faster accelaration and top speed?  

Got a 89 safari cheyenne 503 Long track, just did the first rebuild after 20000 km. A part from the susp which is a real POS, it is a great work sled ,not for trails though. Top speed was 95 kph.  

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Snowmobile 1985 SKI-DOO Safari 377 F/C 114" Parts Parts & Accessories

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1985 Grand Lux Safari SkiDoo

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Guy says 300 miles. Went from house to mailbox with it. Wants 800 dollars and is 512 CC. Too old? All original hand warmers and electric start. Says lots of rust and paint pealing off. Probably shouldn't buy it, eh?  

Just talked to him. Won't budge on the price. There is no rust on the machine except for the track area. Engine compartment is spotless. 521cc twin liquid cooled, electric start, hand warmers. Was his father's sled who would drive it to the mailbox and back when it snowed. Says he has every record on it and had it serviced every year for 20 years! Says he just paid $300 for it to be servicedin Oct 2005. Is this a nice sled ... for its day?  

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The sled needs no work. The only wear is the discoloration from sitting on the front seat in the thigh area. The only rust is on the beginning of the exhaust pipe ... and a few spots of rust on wear spots of the track. Is this a 136 track? Does anyone know the weight? Is frame steel or aluminum?  

So .. would you buy the 2000 Panther with Reverse 9700 miles for $1350 (pics in Arctic Cat forum) or the 1985 Ski doo Safari Deluxe liquid cooled electric start with 299 miles for $800?  

If you are planning to ride two up the panther is the better buy. also the newer sled will likely cost less in maintenance. the safari is a good sled but older and has sat for several seasons. there can be hidden problems when this happens, such as dry rot of the track and carb boots and other items.  

I plan on using it to go to a cabin at 6400 feet when the road closes. It is a seven mile one way by road (snow unplowed). It is in a National Forest and we received special permission to drive to cabin from road to move supplies and people. Snow will be 4 to 15 feet deep. Average depth is 6 feet. Temperature during the day is in 30's and 20's at night. Last year part of cabin collasped in 30 feet of snow/ice and rebuilt it.  

sounds fairly treacherous. I'm not sure I would want to be driving a 26 year old sled in those conditions. Someone else mentioned parts may be scarce for this machine as well if something does go wrong...  

the panther will have a longer track than the sumit also. better for deap snow.  

So the Ski Doo is an 85 GL 521cc Liquid cooled oil injection. 16.5 X 124 track (hard to get) Electric start. Do you know how much it weighs? Some one said they guess it weighs 470 pounds with fluids. Sound about right?  

Was told the Arctic cat will weigh 700 pounds with fluids.  

brown435 said: So the Ski Doo is an 85 GL 521cc Liquid cooled oil injection. 16.5 X 124 track (hard to get) Electric start. Do you know how much it weighs? Some one said they guess it weighs 470 pounds with fluids. Sound about right? Click to expand...

RJ Gleason said: 470 may be the dry weight before any fluids are added. the total weight will be around 600 to 650 lbs. Although the Panther may be heavier by a little, the longer track (136in) will more than compensate and will be better in the deep snow. the suspension is better too withe the adjustable overload spring arm that allows you to setup for one or two riders. you just flip the lever and it preloads for more carrying weight and when you are on it alone, you can have it set for your personal preference. Click to expand...

Foot print area would be 124X16.5 2046 square inches vs The 15x136 of 2040square inches. So which is better Longer VS. Wider?  

brown do you have a pic of the front of your sled that you can put up with no cover i cant find one and i'm being offered one to buy out of town and don't want to waist my time going to it not to like the way it looks if so can you put it up please or can any one put one up for me to see thank you  

safari I love vintage sleds, and that one is a peach. It is basically a long track safari with all the luxo goodies they had at the time. Here in NYS $800 would also buy you a early 90s 2up with decent miles (less than 3000) with reverse. There is nothing wrong with buying an old sled, I ran my (similar) 87 Ski Doo Escapade hundreds of miles and had a great time, very reliable. If you are just looking for short runs, no reason not to get this. For long runs, more suspension is a serious advantage.  

If you're looking for a daily rider, get the newer sled. Things break on sleds. The Ski Doo is 26 years old. Parts will be extremely scarce if you can find them at all.  

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1985 Ski-Doo Safari 447 Snowmobile Parts

Spark Plugs:

Br9es ngk spark plug, part #: br9es, br9es ngk solid spark plug, part #: br9es-solid, dayco drive belts:.

Ski-Doo Dayco HP (High Performance) Belt. Fits 84-03 mid power Ski Doo Snowmobiles.

Part #: hp3023.

X-Large Universal Cover. Fits snowmobiles 110" to 115" long (tail to nose) -INDOOR USE ONLY ( non trailerable)

Part #: 780-0212, windshields & accessories:.

Ski-Doo/Moto-Ski Low 16" Windshield Clear

Part #: 450-454.

Ski-Doo High 20" Windshield Clear

Part #: 450-460.

Ski-Doo Medium 18" Windshield Smoke

Part #: 450-461.

Ski-Doo Wearbar. Fits many older mid powered Ski-Doo Snowmobiles. (Sold each.)

Part #: 510-412, yours needs 2, carbide wearbars:.

4" Carbide Runners. Fits many early Ski-Doo Snowmobiles. (Sold as pair.)

Part #: 505-418.

Comet 108EXP Clutch for Ski-Doo Snowmobiles (+.200 deep bore)

Part #: 217504a.

Spring-White 102C

Part #: 203474a, ski suspension shock:.

Bombardier Hydraulic Ski Shock

Part #: 08-114-08, rear track suspension shock:.

Bombardier & Moto-Ski Hydraulic Suspension Shock

Part #: 04-231, rear suspension parts:.

RH Ski-Doo & Moto-Ski Spring Adjustment Block (1 pc). Slide Suspension Models Only.

Part #: 04-298.

LH Ski-Doo & Moto-Ski Spring Adjustment Block (1 pc). Slide Suspension models only.

Part #: 04-299, brake pads & shoes:.

Ski-Doo / Moto-Ski Brake Pad Set

Part #: 05-111, headlamp assemblies:.

Ski-Doo Headlamp Housing & Lens

Part #: 01-603.

1157 Snowmobile Taillight Bulb. 12V 30W/25W

Part #: 01-1157.

Ski-Doo Tailight Lens

Part #: 01-104-05, carburetor mounting flanges:.

Ski-Doo / Moto-Ski Carb Flange

Part #: 07-475, throttle cable:.

Ski-Doo 80s & 90s Safari & Cheyene Throttle Cable

Part #: 05-139-37, brake cable:.

Ski-Doo / Moto-Ski Brake Cable

Part #: 05-994, speedometer cable & parts:.

Speedometer Insert for many Arctic Cat, Polaris & Ski-Doo Snowmobiles.

Part #: 12-163-ms, coils, pick up coils, stators:.

Ski-Doo / Moto-Ski External Coil

Part #: 01-097-h2.

Ski-Doo CDI

Part #: 01-299, starters & starter parts:.

Ski-Doo Snowmobile Starter Pawl Kit

Part #: sm-11004.

SM-11004A - Ski-Doo Snowmobile Starter Pawl only

Part #: sm-11004a.

SM-11006 - Recoil Starter Pulley For many Fan Cooled Ski-Doo Snowmobiles

Part #: sm-11006.

11-367 - Recoil Starter Pulley For Moto Ski & Ski-Doo Snowmobiles

Part #: 11-367.

9.5 x 635 Fan Belt for Kawasaki / Sno-Jet

Part #: 09-803, starter rewind springs:.

Rotax Rewind Spring

Part #: 11-171, oem style pistons:.

OEM Style Piston assembly for some 84-07 Ski-Doo 440cc fan cooled engines. Std size

Part #: 09-752.

OEM Style Piston assembly for some 84-07 Ski-Doo 440cc fan cooled engines. .010 oversized

Part #: 09-752-1.

OEM Style Piston assembly for some 84-07 Ski-Doo 440cc fan cooled engines. .020 oversized

Part #: 09-752-2, oem style rings:.

OEM Style Piston Rings for some 84-07 Ski-Doo 440cc fan cooled engines. Std size

Part #: r09-752, top end gasket set:.

Ski-Doo 447 Pro-Formance Gasket Set.

Part #: 710162c, gasket set w/os:.

Ski-Doo Professional Engine Gasket Set

Part #: 711162c, oil seal set:.

55103 - Vertex Engine Crankshaft Oil Seal Kit and Water Pump Seal

Part #: 55103, mag side oil seal:.

Ski-Doo Mag Oil Seal (30x62x7)

Part #: 501306, pto side oil seal:.

Ski-Doo Mag & PTO Oil Seal (35x72x7 R,T)

Part #: 501372, piston pin needle bearings:.

09-505 - 18 x 22 x 22 Wrist Pin Bearing

Part #: 09-505.

07-288-02 - Oil Cap For Many 85-93 Ski-Doo Snowmobiles

Part #: 07-288-02, skis & ski shocks:.

Ski-Doo Ski. Models: Formula, Safari, Skandic, Tundra

Part #: 08-323, serving you since 1963.

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1985 skidoo safari flywheel question

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Hi I have a 1985 skidoo safari 377 with a stator style ignition. I got the machine with no flywheel and I wanted to verify the flywheel I have will work , I have a 032000-6870 flywheel that seems to fit fine and I am getting spark, however I have not attempted to check timing yet and it is not starting . Can anyone please verify that the magnets are oriented the same for this sled. Like I said I am getting good spark and the flywheel presses on fine. I appreciate the help  

Could you post a pic? I'll check my flywheels tomorrow for you and see if that number matches. I know 377 and 447 have the same flywheel and I believe so does 503  

Here is the picture of the inside of the flywheel  

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My main concern is the the magnets are oriented slightly different in relation to the key . Thanks again I appreciate it  

that is the correct flywheel here is a picture of my flywheel that came off a 377 anything from 1982-89 will fit so you might have other issues if you have spark and it won't start  

Thanks scoobydoo maybe I'm being crazy and mis understanding but do you notice how if you look at the oblong hole in comparison to magnets how mine is different  

The oblong hole on mine is in the break between the magnets and yours is aligned on the magnet? I wonder if that is possibly why the won't start and maybe my timing is off. On a separate note I have a 447 nippo motor, could I take the entire ignition system off (Cdi ,stator,flywheel,coil) and swap the entire thing onto my 377 setup to solve the entire issue ?  

yes you can i converted a 1980 377 motor from points to CDI with the ignition from a 1984 safari 447  

Awesome I did notice the 447 cdi box is a 2 wire going to the ignition cool instead of a 3 , but I figure since im swapping the entire system t won't matter  

I ran into a similar issue on my 1989 Tundra. The location of the key can make a difference. I tried replacing a 032000-6870 flywheel with a 032000-1681. Sled would start, but ran backward. Couldn't retard the timing enough to get it to run forward. Closer inspection of the two flywheels revealed the keys were in a different location relative to the magnet. I put on the original flywheel (damaged) and it runs in the right direction again. I also replaced the CDI on this machine and could only find a replacement with 3 wires. The stator only had two. Turns out the third wire from the CDI is for the kill switch and can be spliced with the kill switch from the stator.  

Thanks for the reply, so it's kinda hard to know for sure because of the crazy 6000 rpm needed to time (my timing light doesn't work that fast). But I will say is it seems to run great and forward lol so I think I'm going to just go with it and assume it is correct I replaced the flywheel Cdi box and ignition coil  

i don't understand that flywheel you have i checked all my other flywheels and there are not slotted like yours so i'm confused. FYI they still sell the two wire CDI they just don't sell the coil anymore look at my pictures this is one of my 1980 converted 377 i used a two prong CDI the second picture is the NLA coil the part number at Royal Distributing is page # 01-143-41 on page 122 $77  

Thanks for photos can you show me a picture of your flywheels just curious what the difference is  

they are exactly like the one i posted earlier  

Scoobydoo sorry to bother you with this again last time the flywheel you posted up there was that a 032000-1681  

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