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South Detroit confusion in Journey's 'Don't Stop Believin' ' will be preserved forever

South Detroit, which basically does not exist, was officially immortalized this month by the Library of Congress.

You won't find it on a map, but now it's in the National Recording Registry , courtesy of the powerhouse rock band Journey and what turns out to have been a misinterpreted road sign. "Don't Stop Believin'," bellowed with glee by fans at Detroit Red Wings games and performed on "Glee" half a dozen times, was one of 25 recordings declared worthy of preservation for all eternity.

The class of 2022 also includes renowned hitmakers Linda Ronstadt, Wu-Tang Clan and Franklin D. Roosevelt. Oh, and Motown's Four Tops, for "Reach Out, I'll Be There." But while the Tops were from Detroit, the song doesn't touch on it.

"Just a city boy," sang Journey's Steve Perry, "born and raised in south Detroit. He took the midnight train goin' anywhere."

Though " Don't Stop Believin' " topped out at a surprisingly tame No. 9 on the Billboard top 100 in 1981-82, it's No. 1 for digital downloads among songs first released in the 20th century. It's the closing number in the Broadway musical "Rock of Ages" and it was the soundtrack for the final 3½ minutes of "The Sopranos."

It reverberates, it resonates. And if you're from metro Detroit, it confuses — much as Perry was confused when the band came to Detroit for a show at Cobo Arena.

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Perry cowrote "Don't Stop Believin'" with guitarist Neal Schon and keyboard player Jonathan Cain. As he explained to Library of Congress writer/editor Neely Tucker, he'd noticed a directional sign for I-75 that featured South on one line and Detroit on the next, and assumed that was a place or a district or at least something more concrete than Oz.

Born in a small central California farming town called Hanford, Perry had mostly seen the rest of the country through the windows of hotels and buses. He had no idea the Detroit River tacks sharply to portside as it swings past downtown, making "south" an uncertain term.

South Detroit, eh?

Ask the experts on either side of the river, and they'll tell you what truly lies in that direction.

"It's called Windsor," said John Roach, communications officer for the mayor's office.

"That's a funny question," said Craig Pearson, managing editor of the Windsor Star . "We do."

Pearson figures he's been to Detroit more than 400 times in the 32 years he has lived in Windsor. He's a fan. And he's a fan of "Don't Stop Believin'," both musically and practically.

"The fact that the song refers to being born and raised in south Detroit," he said, "makes me think that at least subconsciously, other people see Windsor as part of the Detroit experience."

All directions being equal, Perry said, "south Detroit" sounds far better in a lyric than east or west Detroit. Besides, if he'd said East Detroit, he'd have to go back and change it to Eastpointe.

Perry, 73, left the band in 1987, tired of traveling and bickering. His bandmates thought he needed knee surgery and he thought that was a personal decision, thank you, not a personnel decision.

He went back to California, rode his motorcycle, gained 50 or 60 pounds, lost it, and recorded occasional new music, including a Christmas album. But he didn't tour, and he rarely does interviews.

He made an exception for the Library of Congress. That was meaningful, said Tucker, and so was what Perry wore.

"The thing that was striking to us was when he put on a suit and tie for a streaming interview," he said. "We interview lots of people, and they don't put on suits and ties."

Tucker, 58, is a former Detroit Free Press reporter and foreign correspondent. As Perry remembered peering down at a street scene after the concert at Cobo, Tucker realized he must have been staying on a high floor in the hotel at the Renaissance Center. He recognized the orange cast from the old streetlights Perry described as he spoke about another Detroit-inspired passage in the song.

"Strangers waiting, up and down the boulevard, their shadows searching in the night," it says. "Streetlights, people, living just to find emotion, hiding somewhere in the night."

The images connected, Perry's voice enraptured, and 40 years later, the Library of Congress called.

Better than the Hall of Fame

The national registry's mission is to identify audio treasures worthy of preservation for their cultural, historical or aesthetic importance. Out of the 4 million pieces in the library's sound collection, 600 have been enrolled since 2002.

Among Journey's accompanists this year, Ronstadt was honored for the Spanish-language album she recorded that went double platinum and mainstream in 1987, Wu-Tang Clan for reasserting the strength of East Coast Rap in 1993, and Roosevelt for his presidential speeches from 1933 to 1945. Ernest Tubb, Duke Ellington, the radio call of Henry Aaron's record-setting 715th home run ... all have now been recognized as essential Americana.

Perry, a Rock and Roll Hall of Famer, told Tucker it's the greatest honor of his life.

As for south Detroit, technically there's a southernmost point of anything, even the North Pole ice covering. In Detroit, it's a sliver of the 48217 ZIP code area near I-75 between Melvindale and River Rouge.

That’s not what comes to Emily Gail’s mind when she hears “Don’t Stop Believin’.”

About the same time Journey filled Cobo Arena, Gail was plastering the city with her motto, “Say Nice Things About Detroit.”

Ask her where to find south Detroit and she says, “In people’s imaginations.”

That's where the band put it, after all. Whatever and wherever you think it is when you close your eyes, you're absolutely correct.

You can email Neal Rubin at [email protected]. Find him on Twitter at @nealrubin_fp.

This article originally appeared on Detroit Free Press: Journey's 'Don't Stop Believin' ' in National Song Registry

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What Is the Great Mistake Lurking in ‘Don’t Stop Believin’’?

Ever since 1998, when The Wedding Singer first resurrected Journey’s “Don’t Stop Believin’”, the 1981 arena-rock anthem has achieved pop-culture permanence, whether soundtracking The Sopranos final scene , becoming synonymous with Glee , scoring a thousand flash mobs, or being piped into every professional sports arena in the land. With nearly 4.5 million digital units sold, it’s the most downloaded twentieth-century track in the history of counting such things. Jonathan Cain’s unmistakable opening piano riff reflexively inspires people all across this nation to pump their fists … although there is one spot where the arms always collectively falter, even if for just a moment: Southeastern Michigan. For nearly 31 years, this flash of distracting cognitive dissonance has struck each time Steve Perry’s bright tenor lands on the iconic but geographically flawed second line: “just a city boy, born and raised in South Detroit.” Because, as anyone with a tie to the Motor City knows, South Detroit doesn’t exist, either as a term of art or a geographical locale.

East Side? Sure. It’s where Eminen spent his adolescence. West? * Home to the original Motown Records. Southwest? Best Mexican food in the state. But South Detroit is as fictional as the Shire of Middle-earth.

Yes, Detroit does have a southernmost portion, but this area is known as “downtown.” Directly south of downtown, across the Detroit River, is the Canadian hamlet of Windsor. South of that lies a vast stretch of towns known collectively as “Downriver,” which, at the time the song was written, was still somewhat rural. Technically speaking, this is the region the song refers to, making that mysterious male on the midnight train to anywhere * something less than a “city boy.”

For three decades, this has stymied the Motor City adjacent, whose confusion is now a multigenerational phenomenon, one that strikes at the very heart of a city’s identity. Why the fictional neighborhood? And, on further thought, why did a bunch of Bay Area rockers with no ties to Detroit choose it as the fulcrum point for a ballad of hope and perseverance in the first place? This is how rabbit holes are dug. So to finally free Michiganders from these nagging questions that stop them from fully embracing what is our new unofficial national anthem, Vulture decided to solve the mystery by going to Steve Perry himself.

Reached in San Diego, the former Journey front man explained that some of the enduring song’s unique imagery came to him in the witching hour one morning in May of 1980 while the band was in Detroit for a five-night stand as part of the Departure tour. Perry, unable to sleep, stood staring out of his hotel room window at 2 a.m. “I was digging the idea of how the lights were facing down, so that you couldn’t see anything,” he says, recalling the night. “All of a sudden I’d see people walking out of the dark, and into the light. And the term ‘streelight people’ came to me. So Detroit was very much in my consciousness when we started writing.”

Yes, but what about South Detroit? For the love of Tim Allen, what about South Detroit ? To that, Perry pleads poetic license, and ignorance, despite the fact that a quick glance at a map would have alerted him to the issue. “I ran the phonetics of east, west, and north, but nothing sounded as good or emotionally true to me as South Detroit,” he says. “The syntax just sounded right. I fell in love with the line. It’s only been in the last few years that I’ve learned that there is no South Detroit. But it doesn’t matter.”

If the frequency of pop-cultural recycling and the number of digital downloads are an accurate gauge, Perry is right, the flummoxing of an entire metropolitan notwithstanding. In fact, the song will likely continue to go on and on and on and on …

*   This post has been corrected to note that Eminem was from the East Side, and Motown is in the West, not the North. Also, the midnight train in the song goes “anywhere” and not, as we had it, “nowhere.” In our erroneous version, the train is far less useful, and we hope nobody attempted to book tickets.

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'South Detroit' from 'Don't Stop Believin' explained by Journey's Jonathan Cain

• Updated: Apr. 29, 2016, 12:31 p.m. |
• Published: Apr. 29, 2016, 11:31 a.m.
• Edward Pevos | [email protected]

DETROIT, MI - Detroit played a big role in the most downloaded song of all-time. We talked with Journey songwriter and keyboardist Jonathan Cain about the origin of the words " South Detroit " in the band's huge hit song " Don't Stop Believin .'"

The song is from Journey's seventh studio album "Escape" in 1981. It peaked at number 9 on the Billboard Hot 100. The song was used in the final scene of "The Sopranos" in 2007 and was also featured on the hit show "Glee" in 2009.

Journey's Jonathan Cain co-wrote the song. I asked him to explain where "South Detroit" came from.

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See the rest of my interview with Cain on MLive.com next week. He also talks about why he once got a phone call from Prince and where things stand with Steve Perry and a possible reunion.

Upcoming Journey Michigan concerts:

You'll hear Journey perform "Don't Stop Believin'" and many of the band's other big hits at two upcoming shows in Michigan. They will be in Grand Rapids at Van Andel Arena on Tuesday, Aug. 2 2016 and at DTE Energy Music Theatre on Thursday, Aug. 4, 2016 with the Doobie Brothers and Dave Mason.

Edward Pevos is an entertainment reporter for MLive. You can follow him on Twitter @PaparazzoPevos

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Stop believing! Perry admits there's no 'South Detroit'

Journey's "Don't Stop Believin'" has been everywhere in recent years -- including on "The Sopranos" finale and on the show "Glee."  But New York Magazine's Vulture column decided to delve into a glaring mistake in the second line.

You know the words. Steve Perry belts it out beautifully: "Just a city boy, born and raised in SOUTH DETROIT!"

But as Vulture points out, there's no area called "South Detroit." The southern portion of Detroit is called downtown and south of downtown is ... Canada.

Vulture points out that the song could refer to the area known as "Downriver," but argue that this area was rural when Journey wrote its song, and thus a "city boy" wasn't going to be raised there.

We'll leave the intricacies of Motor City geography to natives, but Vulture went right to the source and called Steve Perry in San Diego. Unsurprisingly, the exact details of geography weren't top of mind when Perry was writing the song in 1980.

"I ran the phonetics of east, west, and north, but nothing sounded as good or emotionally true to me as South Detroit," he told the reporter. "It’s only been in the last few years that I’ve learned that there is no South Detroit. But it doesn't matter."

The singer said he was inspired to write the song while he actually was in Detroit on tour, looking out his hotel window.

“All of a sudden I’d see people walking out of the dark, and into the light," Perry told the reporter. "And the term ‘streetlight people’ came to me. So Detroit was very much in my consciousness when we started writing.”

Perry's far from the only songwriter to take geographic license. A few of our favorites:

• "New York to East California, there's a new wave comin' I warn ya."  --Kim Wilde, "Kids in America" (East California?)
• "Daddy was a cop, on the East Side of Chicago." --Paper Lace, "The Night Chicago Died" (Would Chicago's East Side be Lake Michigan? One commenter on the Vulture blog argues that east of the Calumet River is whar's referred to here.)
• "Coast to coast, L.A. to Chicago."  --Sade, "Smooth Operator."

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Steve Perry Reveals Origin of ‘South Detroit’ in ‘Don’t Stop Believin” [AUDIO]

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South Detroit? There's no such place! (Go ahead, sing along with the song clip.)

"...Just a city boy...born and raised in 'South Detroit'..."

Journey's then-lead singer Steve Perry recently revealed the origin of the fictitious Michigan reference in Journey's 1981 hit "Don't Stop Believin'."

Perry told "New York Magazine" that the lyrics came to him while staying in a Detroit-area hotel in 1980, when the band was on tour. 'South Detroit' was simply poetic license:

“I was digging the idea of how the lights were facing down so that you couldn’t see anything,” he said as he recalled looking out a hotel room window at 2 a.m. “All of a sudden I’d see people walking out of the dark, and into the light. And the term ‘streetlight people’ came to me. So Detroit was very much in my consciousness when we started writing.” (The song includes the line: “Streetlight people/ Living just to find emotion/ Hiding somewhere in the night.” “I ran the phonetics of east, west, and north, but nothing sounded as good or emotionally true to me as South Detroit,” Perry said. “The syntax just sounded right. I fell in love with the line. It’s only been in the last few years that I’ve learned that there is no South Detroit. But it doesn’t matter.”

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South Detroit enthusiasts Journey to perform at Lions-49ers game

Bay area classic rockers will take on halftime duties during sunday's nfc championship game..

After putting the mythical South Detroit on the map, Journey will perform at halftime of the Lions-49ers game on Sunday, 49ers officials announced Friday.

That puts the Bay Area rock group in a bit of a tight spot in front of their hometown crowd: to perform the "South Detroit" line in "Don't Stop Believin'," or to skip it? Only time will tell.

The classic rockers have plenty of other fan favorites to pull from: "Any Way You Want It," "Separate Ways," "Open Arms" or "Faithfully," just to name a few.

But "Dont' Stop Believin'" is far and away the group's biggest song; it has more than 1.7 billion plays on Spotify, where the band's next closest song, "Any Way You Want It," has 398 million streams on the service.

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Amp Squad DJs and Nate Smith will also perform at Sunday's NFC Championship game, and "Despacito" singer Luis Fonsi will do National Anthem honors. Kickoff is at 6:30 p.m. and the game will air on Fox.

Journey — the group is fronted by singer Arnel Pineda, along with original guitarist Neil Schon and longtime keyboard player Jonathan Cain — is due at Comerica Park on July 18 , on a bill that also includes Def Leppard. Steve Miller Band will perform warmup duties for the co-headliners.

As for that "South Detroit" line in "Don't Stop Believin'," songwriter Steve Perry told New York Magazine's Vulture in 2012 that when he was writing the song, "I ran the phonetics of east, west, and north, but nothing sounded as good or emotionally true to me as South Detroit," he said. "The syntax just sounded right. I fell in love with the line. It's only been in the last few years that I've learned that there is no South Detroit. But it doesn't matter."

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Detroit Fans Outraged as Journey Changes “Don’t Stop Believin’” Lyric at Lions-49ers Halftime Performance

by Matthew Wilson January 29, 2024, 7:09 am

Detroit Lions took on the San Francisco 49ers for a spot in the Super Bowl, and the band Journey came out to perform. However, they notably swapped up the lyrics to one of their most popular songs, and fans aren’t happy.

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Journey performed a rendition of “Don’t Stop Believin'” for the stadium. The song famously features the lyrics “Born and raised in South Detroit.” However, the band swapped the lyrics to “Born and raised in San Francisco” for the performance.

End of Don’t stop by Journey, damn they were good AF, that’s my childhood. They changed the lyric from S Detroit to San Francisco 😂😂 pic.twitter.com/iEDulviT0X — Elena (@Doingthangs) January 29, 2024

Detroit Lions were understandably upset by the shift in the lyrics. They took to social media to complain about the change (even if many praised Journey’s performance).

Journey changing the lyrics from South Detroit to San Francisco was weak as hell 😂 — Domenik (@therealiLL) January 29, 2024

One X user cast blame on the band for the Lions loss on Sunday. “Journey played at halftime of Lions-49ers and changed the lyrics to Don’t Stop Believing — singing, “Just a city boy, born and raised in San Francisco,” he wrote . It’s probably Journey’s fault the Lions lost.

Journey really tried to change the lyric to San Francisco instead of South Detroit pic.twitter.com/quOdi6AIaM — Brad S (@BradShuby) January 29, 2024

Another person wrote about the performance, “Aww 🥹 Arnel changed the Detroit lyrics to San Francisco. & he has a voice that sounds so good in a stadium. Long live Journey & long live Arnel Pined.”

Aww 🥹 Arnel changed the Detroit lyrics to San Francisco. & he has a voice that sounds so good in a stadium. Long live Journey & long live Arnel Pineda 🙌🏽✨ https://t.co/qlzD1ix8am — Mae-Anne Trinidad (@maeanneforreal) January 29, 2024

Sports fans are notably superstitious when it comes to games. Some Lions fans think that Journey might have jinxed their chances of making it to the Super Bowl. For a while, the Lions appeared to be having their moment in the sun.

However, the team notably fumbled the chance in the fourth quarter, suffering a devastating 34 to 31 lost to the 49ers. It left Lions coach Dan Campbell telling USA TODAY , “You feel like you got your heart ripped out.”

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Some Fans Rally Around Journey

However, not everyone was upset. Some fans (probably 49er fans if we’re being honest) took to social media to explain the history of the band. In response to a tweet from Skip Bayless calling the song a Detroit anthem, many pointed out that the song is actually about San Francisco.

Bruh Journey was formed in San Francisco. The Bay Area is their home. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤡🤡🤡 — Anthony (@SportsUnrated) January 29, 2024

Journey’s hometown is San Franscisco as that’s where the band formed. So essentially, they were born and raised in the city.

[ Photo by Rob Loud/Getty Images for Journey ]

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