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Club Path/Face to Path Optimal or Acceptable Ranges

By Eli17 , September 24, 2023 in Instruction and Playing Tips

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Just recently I gained access to a Trackman (Golf isn't a very popular sport where I am from) and got a bunch of new info about my swing, however I am unsure about one particular value - an optimal/acceptable range for Club path and face to path.

I understand the ball flight laws but am actually interested what would represent a functional working range in actual degrees. I watched a bunch of youtube, searched the forums and didn't find any actual number except for one post mentioning a generally functional swing path should be in the +/- 3-6 degrees with the face to path being the opposite and halved both for fade and draw. e.g. if you have a +5 path you would want the ftp to be -2,5ish as a general rule.

Can anyone help me figure out what I should be aiming for? Where can I get some info on this.

my swing speed with 7 iron is 77-78 mph and my path is from in to out on average 5-6 degrees and face to path is -3 to-4. So its a draw biased swing but I was honestly surprised that if was so in to out. On swings where I got stuck it was even 8-10 degrees in to out.

Would appreciate any help. 

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I'm not really sure what you are asking for, people play different amounts of curve and the face to path versus path angle differences are just going to create different amounts of curve. Some people prefer more, some people prefer less. As long as you have a consistent ball flight I wouldn't worry too much about it

I think generally speaking, good shots are within 2° FTP. You’re not that far off in terms of the face but that path needs addressing. Your miss with a 7i that’s 8-10° out is way too much.

1 minute ago, colin007 said: I'm not really sure what you are asking for, people play different amounts of curve and the face to path versus path angle differences are just going to create different amounts of curve. Some people prefer more, some people prefer less. As long as you have a consistent ball flight I wouldn't worry too much about it

There gets to be a point where big curves aren’t playable. Like if you have a tree-lined hole where you have to start your ball right to sweep it around but you can’t because the trees are there.

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1 hour ago, billchao said: I think generally speaking, good shots are within 2° FTP. You’re not that far off in terms of the face but that path needs addressing. Your miss with a 7i that’s 8-10° out is way too much. There gets to be a point where big curves aren’t playable. Like if you have a tree-lined hole where you have to start your ball right to sweep it around but you can’t because the trees are there.

Thanks for the input! Is there some type of table or spreadsheet that would provide information or approximate values on what would to expect under the specific path and ftp values?

Would aiming for a 3 degree in to out path with a slightly closed face make sense?   

1 hour ago, colin007 said: I'm not really sure what you are asking for, people play different amounts of curve and the face to path versus path angle differences are just going to create different amounts of curve. Some people prefer more, some people prefer less. As long as you have a consistent ball flight I wouldn't worry too much about it

I am looking for a table or formula for what types of flight I can expect under specific circumstances. Namely if my swing speed is approx 80 mph, path is +3 and ftp is -2, what will the outcome be? 

The big picture I would say is that I am having trouble digesting the info I got and do not know what an acceptable and functional range regarding path would be, so I am looking for an anchor value to start and set a goal.

17 minutes ago, Eli17 said: Is there some type of table or spreadsheet that would provide information or approximate values on what would to expect under the specific path and ftp values?

I don’t think it is as simple as just the two variables. Dynamic loft plays a part, too. Anyway the data isn’t available to the general public. I’m sure Trackman has it.

18 minutes ago, Eli17 said: Would aiming for a 3 degree in to out path with a slightly closed face make sense?

I’d be careful about chasing specific numbers as a goal. If you’re hitting big curves and hooks, work on that. The numbers will sort themselves out.

20 minutes ago, Eli17 said: The big picture I would say is that I am having trouble digesting the info I got and do not know what an acceptable and functional range regarding path would be, so I am looking for an anchor value to start and set a goal.

Golf isn’t played from a spreadsheet, my friend 😃

I know plenty of golfers who don’t know their swing numbers like I know mine who could give me five strokes a side and still beat me.

3 hours ago, Eli17 said:  Th e big picture I would say is that I am having trouble digesting the info I got and do not know what an acceptable and functional range regarding path would be, so I am looking for an anchor value to start and set a goal.

I think the goal is to have your ball curve back towards the intended landing line. Is your ball doing that?

• Sep 25 iacas changed the title to Club Path/Face to Path Optimal or Acceptable Ranges

trackman university has a lot of information about this and other parts in regards to numbers.  def go through it and it will help you with the numbers

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You really need to know the numbers if you want to go down that path...

You can have a perfect path of +3 degrees and the face aiming +1.5 degrees from the target (fadeToPath of -1.5) for each club in the bag and you will still see totally different ball fligth with each of them. Why?

Going for the extreme examples... You are probably hitting down on your wedges by 6°. By the D-Plane laws (an extension of the ball flight rules) you are moving your path to the right by 3° so now your dynamic path is in reality +6° but the face is still only +1.5° (dynamic faceToPath is now -4.5°). As you know the ball is going to launch at around +2° to the target and turn left to miss it to the left (overdraw). (wedges curve less than less lofted clubs but enough to make you miss left if you don't consider the effect of AoA in the dynamic path.

So basically every club you hit down on it you are going to miss it in average to the left of the target, just because the dynamic path is more right than you intended.  If you manage to hit your woods with 0° AoA then you are going to hit your target as you wanted.  But if you hit Up with the driver, lets say +4°, you are moving your dynamic path to the left by 2 degrees. So now your dynamic path is +1° to target and your face is still +1.5° degrees from target (face to path is now +0.5). This is going to be a ball launching +1° of target and moving rigth. (basically a Fade). So with wedges and every club you hit down on it, you are going to hit an overdraw (you need to aim more to the rigth), with 0° AoA you are going to play a perfect draw (you need to aim to the target), and hitting up on it you are going to see a Fade moving away from target (you need to aim left of the target). 

Conclusion A: there is no perfect number. There are a lot of variables that affect ball flight that changes with every club you pick up. consider that toe and heel shots also affect ball flight. 

Conclusion B: Having a faceToPath that is 1 or 2 degrees apart is going to make you hit fade and draws depending on your AoA.  To hit the ball with the same shape for every club you need to have more degrees between the face and the path than half of the AoA you are hitting each shot. If you hit down on wedges at -6° and up on the driver at +6° then you need to at least have 4 degrees between your face and your path in either direction.  

4 hours ago, p1n9183 said: You really need to know the numbers if you want to go down that path... You can have a perfect path of +3 degrees and the face aiming +1.5 degrees from the target (fadeToPath of -1.5) for each club in the bag and you will still see totally different ball fligth with each of them. Why? Going for the extreme examples... You are probably hitting down on your wedges by 6°. By the D-Plane laws (an extension of the ball flight rules) you are moving your path to the right by 3° so now your dynamic path is in reality +6° but the face is still only +1.5° (dynamic faceToPath is now -4.5°). As you know the ball is going to launch at around +2° to the target and turn left to miss it to the left (overdraw). (wedges curve less than less lofted clubs but enough to make you miss left if you don't consider the effect of AoA in the dynamic path. So basically every club you hit down on it you are going to miss it in average to the left of the target, just because the dynamic path is more right than you intended.  If you manage to hit your woods with 0° AoA then you are going to hit your target as you wanted.  But if you hit Up with the driver, lets say +4°, you are moving your dynamic path to the left by 2 degrees. So now your dynamic path is +1° to target and your face is still +1.5° degrees from target (face to path is now +0.5). This is going to be a ball launching +1° of target and moving rigth. (basically a Fade). So with wedges and every club you hit down on it, you are going to hit an overdraw (you need to aim more to the rigth), with 0° AoA you are going to play a perfect draw (you need to aim to the target), and hitting up on it you are going to see a Fade moving away from target (you need to aim left of the target).  Conclusion A: there is no perfect number. There are a lot of variables that affect ball flight that changes with every club you pick up. consider that toe and heel shots also affect ball flight.  Conclusion B: Having a faceToPath that is 1 or 2 degrees apart is going to make you hit fade and draws depending on your AoA.  To hit the ball with the same shape for every club you need to have more degrees between the face and the path than half of the AoA you are hitting each shot. If you hit down on wedges at -6° and up on the driver at +6° then you need to at least have 4 degrees between your face and your path in either direction.  

11 hours ago, p1n9183 said: You really need to know the numbers if you want to go down that path... You can have a perfect path of +3 degrees and the face aiming +1.5 degrees from the target (fadeToPath of -1.5) for each club in the bag and you will still see totally different ball fligth with each of them. Why? Going for the extreme examples... You are probably hitting down on your wedges by 6°. By the D-Plane laws (an extension of the ball flight rules) you are moving your path to the right by 3° so now your dynamic path is in reality +6° but the face is still only +1.5° (dynamic faceToPath is now -4.5°). As you know the ball is going to launch at around +2° to the target and turn left to miss it to the left (overdraw). (wedges curve less than less lofted clubs but enough to make you miss left if you don't consider the effect of AoA in the dynamic path. So basically every club you hit down on it you are going to miss it in average to the left of the target, just because the dynamic path is more right than you intended.  If you manage to hit your woods with 0° AoA then you are going to hit your target as you wanted.  But if you hit Up with the driver, lets say +4°, you are moving your dynamic path to the left by 2 degrees. So now your dynamic path is +1° to target and your face is still +1.5° degrees from target (face to path is now +0.5). This is going to be a ball launching +1° of target and moving rigth. (basically a Fade). So with wedges and every club you hit down on it, you are going to hit an overdraw (you need to aim more to the rigth), with 0° AoA you are going to play a perfect draw (you need to aim to the target), and hitting up on it you are going to see a Fade moving away from target (you need to aim left of the target).  Conclusion A: there is no perfect number. There are a lot of variables that affect ball flight that changes with every club you pick up. consider that toe and heel shots also affect ball flight.  Conclusion B: Having a faceToPath that is 1 or 2 degrees apart is going to make you hit fade and draws depending on your AoA.  To hit the ball with the same shape for every club you need to have more degrees between the face and the path than half of the AoA you are hitting each shot. If you hit down on wedges at -6° and up on the driver at +6° then you need to at least have 4 degrees between your face and your path in either direction.  

This is an amazing amount of information and knowledge and I am grateful for the explanations (using actual numbers which a lot of people don't do) and time used to answer. Where could I get further information like this and further examine it?

On 9/24/2023 at 10:46 PM, colin007 said: I think the goal is to have your ball curve back towards the intended landing line. Is your ball doing that?

Yes, I have a draw biased swing, my miss is a straight push most often. However this is an attempt to get the flight under control and be able to predict what amount of curve I want. So my goal is not to work the extremes and sling hooks around the course but rather getting an idea as to what would be a functional range for the ball flight. 

9 hours ago, Eli17 said: Where could I get further information like this and further examine it?

This page was really useful when I found it.

https://www.perfectgolfswingreview.net/ballflight.htm

On 9/26/2023 at 4:38 PM, p1n9183 said:  As you know the ball is going to launch at around +2° to the target 

How dare you assume that I know that.....

On 9/27/2023 at 4:09 AM, Eli17 said: This is an amazing amount of information and knowledge and I am grateful for the explanations (using actual numbers which a lot of people don't do) and time used to answer. Where could I get further information like this and further examine it?

@grubby98  already answered this, Trackman University. It's free.

Trackmanuniversity . com

On 9/27/2023 at 4:09 AM, Eli17 said: Yes, I have a draw biased swing, my miss is a straight push most often. However this is an attempt to get the flight under control and be able to predict what amount of curve I want . So my goal is not to work the extremes and sling hooks around the course but rather getting an idea as to what would be a functional range for the ball flight. 

You answered this in your original post, somewhere where the face is roughly half of the path will have the ball curving. The more severe your path is and the further the face is from that path the bigger the curve will be. IMO that is all you really need to know in order to predict what amount of curve you want and a functional range for the ball flight. And then just be aware of gear affect especially with longer clubs and the affect that can have on ball flight too.  

I think launch monitor numbers can be useful but it's important to not get bogged down in the weeds with the data. I own a launch monitor that gives me club data too, but I've never once been on the course and thought to myself "My stock swing is 2 degrees out to in but I want to cut this ball more around a tree, I need to make my path 7 out to in here because that gives me 30yds of curve but 6 degrees out to in only gives me 25yds of curve."

A functional range for the ball flight is going to be one that has a repeatable start line and a repeatable curve. You can make that happen with a 1 degree in to out path, a 5 degree in to out path, or even an 8 degree in to out path depending on where you deliver the face. For a period of time earlier this year I was hitting functional shots that were hitting my target and my swing path was double digits out to in.

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43 minutes ago, klineka said: You answered this in your original post, somewhere where the face is roughly half of the path will have the ball curving.

It's a 1:2 ratio for a 6I, yes. For a 9I/W it's about 1:5 or 1:6 for a ball to curve back to the target. For a driver it's closer to 2:3 or even 3:4.

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PGA Tour Trackman Averages: Analyzing Player Performance And Improving Golf Skills

August 18, 2023

Learn how PGA Tour Trackman averages can help analyze player performance, identify strengths and weaknesses, and improve golf skills. Explore common metrics like , , launch angle, spin rate , and carry distance for both professionals and amateur golfers.

What is Trackman?

Definition and explanation.

Trackman is a cutting-edge technology that has revolutionized the game of golf. It is a portable radar system that provides detailed data and analysis on various aspects of a golfer’s swing and ball flight. With its advanced sensors and algorithms, Trackman captures and analyzes data in real-time, offering valuable insights into a player’s performance.

Trackman is used by professional golfers, coaches, and club fitters to enhance their understanding of the swing and improve overall performance. It has become an essential tool in the world of golf, helping players reach new levels of precision and accuracy.

How Does Trackman Work?

Trackman operates on the principle of Doppler radar, which measures the frequency shift of electromagnetic waves. The system consists of two radars – one tracks the golf ball from the moment it is struck, while the other tracks the clubhead during the swing. By analyzing the interaction between the club and the ball, Trackman provides a comprehensive picture of the swing dynamics and ball flight.

The radar system captures multiple data points throughout the entire process, including , , , and spin rate. These metrics are then processed and presented in a user-friendly format, allowing players and coaches to gain valuable insights into their performance.

Trackman’s accuracy and reliability are unparalleled, making it the gold standard in golf tracking technology. Its ability to capture and analyze data in real-time provides immediate feedback, allowing players to make adjustments and improvements on the spot.

With Trackman, every aspect of the swing can be analyzed and optimized. From the moment the clubhead makes contact with the ball to the trajectory and distance it travels, Trackman leaves no stone unturned. This level of detail and precision has made it an indispensable tool for golfers at all levels.

By utilizing Trackman, players can gain a deeper understanding of their swing mechanics and make data-driven decisions to enhance their performance on the course. Whether it’s adjusting swing mechanics, optimizing equipment setup, or tailoring training programs, Trackman’s insights provide a roadmap to improvement.

Importance of Trackman Averages

Analyzing player performance.

When it comes to improving one’s golf game, understanding and analyzing player performance is crucial. This is where Trackman, a state-of-the-art technology, comes into play. Trackman provides golfers with valuable data and insights that can help them identify their strengths and weaknesses.

By analyzing player performance using Trackman, golfers can gain a deeper understanding of their swing mechanics, , , launch angle, spin rate, and carry distance. This data allows players to assess their overall performance and make necessary adjustments to their game.

Trackman’s ability to accurately measure clubhead speed, , and provides golfers with a comprehensive view of their swing mechanics. This information helps players identify any inefficiencies or flaws in their technique. By pinpointing areas that need improvement, golfers can work on refining their swing mechanics and ultimately enhance their performance on the course.

Identifying Strengths and Weaknesses

One of the key benefits of using Trackman is its ability to identify a golfer’s strengths and weaknesses. By analyzing the data provided by Trackman, players can determine which aspects of their game they excel in and which areas need improvement.

For example, Trackman’s metric can reveal whether a golfer consistently hits shots with too much or too little spin. This information can help players make adjustments to their swing to achieve optimal spin rates, which greatly affects the distance and control of the golf ball.

Another important metric provided by Trackman is the carry distance. This metric shows how far a golfer’s shots travel through the air before landing. By comparing their carry distance with the average distances of PGA Tour players, golfers can assess their power and accuracy off the tee or with different clubs. This knowledge allows players to focus on areas that need improvement, such as increasing their or optimizing their equipment setup.

Trackman also enables golfers to compare their performance with that of elite players on the PGA Tour. By examining the average , , launch angle, spin rate, and carry distance of professional golfers, players can set realistic goals for themselves. They can also gain valuable insights into the techniques and strategies employed by top players, which can inform their own training programs.

Common Trackman Metrics

Trackman is a revolutionary technology that has transformed the way we analyze and understand the game of golf. By providing accurate and detailed data on various metrics, Trackman has become an essential tool for players, coaches, and enthusiasts alike. In this section, we will explore some of the most common Trackman metrics and their significance in improving performance.

Clubhead Speed

One of the key metrics measured by Trackman is , which refers to the velocity at which the clubhead is moving through impact. Clubhead speed is a crucial factor in determining the distance a golf ball will travel. A higher clubhead speed usually results in a longer shot, provided other factors like angle of attack and spin rate are optimized.

Trackman allows players to accurately measure their clubhead speed and compare it to the averages of professional golfers. This information can provide valuable insights into a player’s physical capabilities and potential areas for improvement. By focusing on increasing , players can unlock greater distance off the tee and gain a competitive edge.

Ball speed, another important metric provided by Trackman, is the speed at which the golf ball leaves the clubface after impact. It is influenced by factors such as clubhead speed, angle of attack, and the efficiency of the strike. Ball speed is directly correlated to distance, with higher ball speeds resulting in longer shots.

Trackman enables players to monitor and analyze their , allowing them to make adjustments to their swing mechanics and equipment setup. By optimizing , players can maximize their distance potential and achieve greater consistency in their shots.

Launch Angle

The is the angle at which the ball takes off after being struck. It is a critical metric as it determines the trajectory and the amount of carry distance the ball will achieve. The optimal launch angle varies depending on the club and the desired shot outcome.

Trackman provides accurate measurements of launch angle, allowing players to fine-tune their swings to achieve the ideal launch conditions. By adjusting the launch angle, players can optimize their distance, accuracy, and control, ensuring their shots reach their intended targets with precision.

Spin rate refers to the amount of spin the ball has after being struck. It plays a significant role in determining the ball’s trajectory, control, and stopping power upon landing. A proper can help players navigate challenging course conditions and execute different shot shapes.

Trackman captures spin rate data, enabling players to analyze the effectiveness of their shots. By understanding their spin rates, players can make necessary adjustments to their swings and equipment, ensuring the desired spin characteristics for each shot. This knowledge is particularly crucial for controlling approach shots and maximizing scoring opportunities.

Carry Distance

Carry distance is the distance the ball travels through the air before touching the ground. It is a vital metric for players as it directly affects the target area they can reach and the potential hazards they need to navigate. Carry distance is influenced by factors such as , ball speed, launch angle, and spin rate.

Trackman provides accurate measurements of carry distance, allowing players to assess their shot performance objectively. By tracking carry distance, players can identify any inconsistencies in their shots and work on optimizing the factors that contribute to longer and more efficient carries. This information is invaluable for planning strategies on the course and making informed decisions during gameplay.

Trackman Averages for PGA Tour Players

When it comes to professional golf, the PGA Tour is the pinnacle of competition. The players who make it to this level possess incredible skill and precision in their game. Trackman, a cutting-edge technology in the world of golf, provides invaluable insights into the performance of these elite players. Let’s take a closer look at some of the key trackman averages for PGA Tour players.

Top Clubhead Speed Averages

Clubhead speed is a crucial factor in determining the distance a golf ball will travel. PGA Tour players are known for their ability to generate impressive clubhead speeds, and the trackman data confirms this. On average, PGA Tour players have clubhead speeds that surpass 110 miles per hour . This incredible speed allows them to unleash the full potential of their swings and achieve remarkable distances off the tee.

Ball Speed Averages of Elite Players

Clubhead speed is just one piece of the puzzle; another vital factor is . Ball speed is directly influenced by the impact between the clubface and the ball. PGA Tour players consistently achieve ball speeds that exceed 160 miles per hour . This high is a testament to their exceptional timing, technique, and power. It enables them to maximize the distance covered by the golf ball, giving them a significant advantage on the course.

Launch Angle Trends on Tour

The refers to the angle at which the golf ball takes off after impact. It plays a crucial role in determining the trajectory and distance covered by the ball. Analyzing trackman data reveals interesting trends in launch angles among PGA Tour players. On average, these professionals tend to launch the ball at angles ranging from 10 to 15 degrees with their drivers. This optimal launch angle allows for a balance between distance and accuracy, ensuring the ball carries far while still maintaining control.

Spin Rate Averages for Different Shots

Spin rate is another critical metric measured by trackman. It refers to the amount of rotation the golf ball experiences while in flight. PGA Tour players have a remarkable ability to control the spin rate of their shots, depending on the desired outcome. For example, when hitting a driver off the tee, they typically aim for a lower to maximize distance. On the other hand, when hitting approach shots into greens, they often increase the to enhance control and stopping power.

Average Carry Distance by Club

Carry distance is the distance the golf ball travels through the air before it touches the ground. Trackman data provides fascinating insights into the average carry distances achieved by PGA Tour players with different clubs. For instance, with their drivers, these professionals can carry the ball over 280 yards, showcasing their incredible power and precision. As they transition to shorter clubs, such as irons and wedges, the average carry distances decrease but still remain impressive, often exceeding 150 yards.

In summary, trackman data offers a glimpse into the extraordinary capabilities of PGA Tour players. Their clubhead speeds, ball speeds, launch angles, spin rates, and carry distances are a testament to the remarkable skills they possess. By analyzing these averages, golfers at all levels can gain valuable insights into the areas they need to focus on to improve their own game. Whether it’s increasing , optimizing launch angles, or controlling spin rates, trackman data provides a wealth of information for players looking to take their game to the next level.

(Unordered list:)

• PGA Tour players exhibit clubhead speeds surpassing 110 miles per hour.
• Ball speeds achieved by elite players exceed 160 miles per hour.
• Launch angles for PGA Tour players range from 10 to 15 degrees with drivers.
• Spin rates vary depending on the desired outcome of the shot.
• Carry distances for drivers can exceed 280 yards, while shorter clubs still achieve impressive distances exceeding 150 yards.

Using Trackman Data for Improvement

Trackman is not just a tool for analyzing your golf swing; it can also be a powerful tool for improving your game. By using the data provided by Trackman, you can make adjustments to your swing mechanics, optimize your equipment setup, and tailor your training programs to address specific areas of improvement.

Adjusting Swing Mechanics

One of the key benefits of using Trackman is the ability to analyze your swing mechanics in great detail. By looking at metrics such as , ball speed , launch angle, , and carry distance, you can identify any flaws or inefficiencies in your swing. For example, if you notice that your launch angle is consistently too low, you may need to work on increasing your loft at impact. On the other hand, if your spin rate is too high, you may need to focus on making more solid contact with the ball. By making these adjustments to your swing mechanics, you can optimize your ball flight and increase your overall performance on the course.

Optimizing Equipment Setup

Another area where Trackman can be incredibly useful is in optimizing your equipment setup. By analyzing the data provided by Trackman, you can determine if your current club setup is the best fit for your swing. For example, if you find that you consistently have a low launch angle with your driver, it may be worth experimenting with a different loft or shaft flex to achieve a higher launch. Similarly, if you notice that your is too high with your irons, you may want to try different shaft options to help lower your spin. By fine-tuning your equipment setup based on the data from Trackman, you can maximize your distance and accuracy on the course.

Tailoring Training Programs

Trackman data can also be used to tailor your training programs to address specific areas of improvement. By identifying your strengths and weaknesses through the various metrics provided by Trackman, you can develop a training plan that focuses on the areas that need the most attention. For example, if you consistently have a low clubhead speed compared to the average PGA Tour player, you can incorporate exercises and drills that specifically target increasing your . If your carry distance with certain clubs is shorter than desired, you can work on improving your and through targeted training exercises. By customizing your training programs based on the data from Trackman, you can accelerate your progress and reach your golfing goals faster.

• Analyze metrics such as , , , spin rate, and carry distance
• Identify flaws or inefficiencies in your swing
• Make adjustments to improve , spin rate, and overall ball flight
• Use Trackman data to determine if your current club setup is the best fit for your swing
• Experiment with different lofts, shaft flexes, and options to optimize and spin rate
• Maximize distance and accuracy on the course by fine-tuning your equipment setup
• Identify strengths and weaknesses through Trackman metrics
• Develop a training plan that focuses on areas needing improvement
• Incorporate exercises and drills to increase , , and carry distance

Trackman Averages vs. Amateur Golfers

Golf is a sport that requires precision and skill. Many amateur golfers aspire to reach the level of professionals and achieve the same level of performance on the golf course. One tool that has revolutionized the game and helped players of all levels improve is Trackman. By analyzing various metrics, Trackman provides valuable insights into a golfer’s swing and performance. In this section, we will explore the differences between trackman averages for professional golfers and amateur golfers.

Differences in Clubhead Speed

Clubhead speed is a crucial factor in determining the distance and accuracy of a golf shot. Professional golfers who have honed their skills over years of practice often exhibit higher clubhead speeds compared to amateur golfers. This increased speed allows professionals to generate more power, resulting in longer drives and greater control over the ball.

Amateur golfers, on the other hand, may have lower clubhead speeds due to various factors such as lack of experience, technique, or physical limitations. However, this does not mean that amateurs cannot improve their clubhead speed. Through proper training and guidance, amateurs can work on their swing mechanics and increase their over time.

Disparities in Ball Speed

Ball speed is closely related to clubhead speed and has a significant impact on the distance a golf ball travels. When comparing trackman averages, professional golfers tend to achieve higher ball speeds than amateur golfers. This is primarily because professionals have mastered the art of striking the ball with the sweet spot of the clubface, resulting in maximum energy transfer to the ball.

Amateur golfers, on the other hand, may struggle to consistently strike the ball with the sweet spot, leading to lower ball speeds. This can be attributed to factors such as swing inconsistencies, improper alignment, or lack of awareness of the clubface impact position. By working on their swing mechanics and receiving proper coaching, amateur golfers can improve their and enjoy longer and more accurate shots.

Variances in Launch Angle

Launch angle refers to the angle at which the ball takes off from the clubface during impact. It plays a crucial role in determining the trajectory and distance of a golf shot. When comparing trackman averages, it is evident that professional golfers tend to have more consistent and optimal launch angles compared to amateur golfers.

Professional golfers have the ability to control their launch angles, allowing them to achieve the desired ball flight and maximize distance. They understand the importance of optimizing launch angles based on the club being used and the specific shot requirements. On the other hand, amateur golfers may struggle with inconsistent launch angles, resulting in unpredictable ball flights and reduced distance. By working with a golf professional or utilizing the data provided by Trackman, amateurs can analyze their launch angles and make adjustments to improve their overall performance.

Spin Rate Contrasts

Spin rate refers to the amount of spin imparted on the ball during impact. It significantly affects the ball’s ability to stay in the air, control its trajectory, and influence its stopping power on the greens. When comparing trackman averages, professional golfers tend to exhibit more consistent and optimal spin rates compared to amateur golfers.

Professional golfers understand the delicate balance between spin and distance. They have the ability to generate the appropriate spin rates for different shots, allowing them to control the ball’s flight and landing. Amateur golfers, on the other hand, may struggle with inconsistent spin rates, leading to less control over the ball’s flight and limited stopping power on the greens. By utilizing the data provided by Trackman and analyzing their spin rates, amateur golfers can make adjustments to their swing mechanics and equipment setup to optimize their spin rates and improve their overall performance.

Discrepancies in Carry Distance

Carry distance refers to the distance the ball travels through the air before it lands. It is a critical metric that determines how far a golfer can hit each club. When comparing trackman averages, professional golfers tend to achieve greater carry distances compared to amateur golfers.

Professional golfers have the ability to consistently generate high clubhead speeds, optimal launch angles, and appropriate spin rates, resulting in longer carry distances. They have honed their skills and techniques over time, allowing them to maximize their distance potential. Amateur golfers often struggle to achieve the same level of consistency, leading to shorter carry distances. However, by analyzing the data provided by Trackman and working on their swing mechanics and equipment setup, amateurs can make improvements and increase their carry distances.

In conclusion, Trackman provides valuable insights into the performance of both professional and amateur golfers. When comparing trackman averages, it is evident that professional golfers tend to exhibit higher clubhead speeds, ball speeds, more consistent launch angles, optimal spin rates, and greater carry distances. However, this should not discourage amateur golfers. By utilizing the data and feedback provided by Trackman, working on their swing mechanics, and seeking professional guidance, amateurs can make significant improvements and bridge the gap between trackman averages for professionals and themselves. Remember, golf is a game of continuous improvement, and with dedication and practice, anyone can enhance their performance on the golf course.

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How to Read Trackman Data: Made Simple

by Sam Ledgerwood | Feb 3, 2024

Trackman data can be overwhelming with its numerous numbers and measurements. However, understanding the key data points can provide valuable insights into your golf swing. In this article, I will break down the essential Trackman numbers and explain what they mean for your game.

WHAT'S IN THIS ARTICLE?

Key Takeaways:

• Understanding Trackman data can provide valuable insights into your golf swing.
• Key data points can help you analyze and improve your performance on the golf course.
• Trackman data includes metrics like face angle , club path , impact location , attack angle , and low point .
• Interpreting these numbers can help you understand shot shape, ball flight, and optimize your swing.
• Consulting with a Trackman coach can provide personalized guidance for improving your game.

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Face Angle: Understanding the Horizontal Direction

The face angle is a vital aspect of your golf swing and plays a significant role in determining the initial direction of the ball. It represents the horizontal direction in which your club face is pointing at the moment of impact. Understanding the face angle can help you correct any issues and improve your shot accuracy.

When measuring the face angle, a closed club face will point to the left and display a negative number. This indicates that the club face is closed in relation to the target line. On the other hand, an open club face will point to the right and show a positive number, suggesting that the face is open. A square club face, where the club face points directly at the target line, will have a value of 0 degrees.

An open club face at impact can lead to a shot that veers off to the right, while a closed club face can result in a shot that curves left. Achieving a square club face is crucial for hitting straight shots and aligning with the target. It’s important to note that the face angle alone does not determine the shot shape; other factors like the club path also influence the final outcome.

To measure the face angle accurately and understand its impact on your shots, consider using launch monitors like Trackman. These devices provide precise data and analysis, giving you valuable insights into your swing mechanics. By understanding and managing your face angle, you can make adjustments and improve your ball striking consistency.

Why Face Angle Matters

The face angle is fundamental because it dictates the initial direction of the ball. Even a slight variation in the face angle can result in a significant deviation from your intended target. By understanding the face angle and its relationship to the target line, you can make necessary corrections to achieve the desired shot shape.

For instance, if you consistently have an open club face at impact, causing your shots to slice to the right, you can work on closing the club face to produce straighter shots. Conversely, if you tend to have a closed club face , resulting in shots that hook to the left, focusing on opening the club face can help you straighten out your shots.

Understanding the face angle is particularly important for golfers who struggle with consistency and shot shape control. By analyzing your face angle data and making the necessary adjustments, you can improve your accuracy and achieve more predictable outcomes on the course.

Face Angle and Shot Direction

Club path: analyzing the swing direction.

When it comes to analyzing your golf swing, understanding the club path is crucial. The club path refers to the direction in which you are swinging the club, and it plays a significant role in determining the shape of your shots. By analyzing your club path, you can gain valuable insights into your swing and make adjustments to achieve your desired ball flight.

A positive club path indicates an in-to-out swing , where the club approaches the ball from the inside and moves towards the target line. This type of swing often produces a draw shape, where the ball curves gently from right to left (for right-handed golfers). On the other hand, a negative club path suggests an out-to-in swing , where the club approaches the ball from the outside and moves away from the target line. This swing path can result in a fade or slice, with the ball curving from left to right.

Understanding your club path allows you to shape your ball flight according to your intentions. If you want to hit a draw, you can focus on maintaining an in-to-out swing path. Conversely, if you prefer a fade, you can work on swinging out-to-in. By analyzing and adjusting your club path, you can gain better control over the direction and shape of your shots.

To help you visualize the concept of club path, here is an example:

As you can see from the table above, there is a clear correlation between club path and shot shape. By understanding and analyzing your club path, you can make informed decisions to optimize your swing and improve your overall performance on the course.

Impact Location: Considering the Strike Position

Impact location is a critical aspect of your golf swing and refers to the position on the club face where you make contact with the ball. The ideal scenario is to hit the ball at the centered sweet spot of the club face.

A centered strike at the sweet spot is considered ideal as it allows for maximum energy transfer and control over the shot. Hitting the ball off-center can significantly affect the shot shape and result in unintended outcomes.

When the ball is struck towards the heel of the club face, it tends to produce a fade. On the other hand, a strike towards the toe can result in a draw. These deviations from the sweet spot impact the direction and curvature of the ball flight.

Understanding the impact location is essential for analyzing shot shape and understanding the relationship between the club face and club path. By adjusting your impact location, you can fine-tune your ball flight and gain better control over your shots.

Here’s a table summarizing the effects of impact location on shot shape:

By paying attention to your impact location and practicing consistently, you can improve your ability to hit the ball at the sweet spot and achieve more consistent and accurate shots on the golf course.

Attack Angle and Low Point: Examining Ball Interaction

When it comes to optimizing your golf swing, understanding the attack angle and low point is crucial. These two variables play a significant role in determining your ball contact and overall performance on the course.

Attack Angle: Hitting Down or Up on the Ball

The attack angle measures the vertical direction of your club head at the moment of impact. A negative attack angle means you are hitting down on the ball , while a positive attack angle indicates you are hitting up on the ball .

If you have a negative attack angle, your club is moving downward, which is ideal for iron shots. By striking down on the ball, you can compress it and achieve optimal spin and distance control. This attack angle helps to create a divot in front of the ball, indicating a crisp and precise strike.

On the other hand, a positive attack angle is beneficial for driving the ball off the tee. By hitting up on the ball , you can increase your launch angle and reduce spin, resulting in longer drives. This attack angle allows you to sweep the ball off the tee without taking a divot.

Low Point: Finding the Bottom of Your Swing

The low point refers to the moment in your swing when the club reaches its lowest position. This point is critical as it determines the level of ball-first or ground-first contact.

When your low point is indicated as “A,” it means you are hitting the ball before the ground. This is desirable for iron shots, as it allows you to compress the ball and generate the desired backspin. Achieving ball-first contact ensures a clean strike and optimal control over shot shape and accuracy.

Conversely, when your low point is indicated as “B,” it suggests you are hitting the ground before making contact with the ball. This is preferred for driving the ball off the tee, as it helps promote an upward attack angle and maximize distance. By hitting the ground first, you can launch the ball high into the air and achieve a powerful drive.

Understanding and optimizing your attack angle and low point can greatly impact your performance on the golf course. By adjusting these variables according to the shot you intend to make, you can achieve better ball contact, control, and consistency in your game.

Interpreting Trackman data may initially seem overwhelming, but understanding the key numbers can offer valuable insights into your golf swing. By analyzing the face angle, club path, impact location, attack angle, and low point, you can gain a deeper understanding of the factors influencing your ball flight and make more informed decisions to improve your game.

Consulting with a Trackman coach can provide specific guidance tailored to your swing, helping you make the most of the data. Remember, practice and analysis are key to unlocking the secrets of your swing and optimizing your performance on the golf course.

So, don’t be intimidated by the abundance of numbers. Instead, embrace the opportunity to read Trackman data and uncover the hidden insights it holds. By delving into the intricacies of your swing, you can take your game to new heights and enjoy the satisfaction of watching your skills transform.

How do I read Trackman data?

Reading Trackman data involves understanding key measurements such as the face angle, club path, impact location, attack angle, and low point. These numbers provide valuable insights into your golf swing and can help you improve your game. Let’s break down what each measurement means:

What does the face angle represent?

The face angle indicates the horizontal direction in which your club face is pointing at impact. A positive number means an open club face, while a negative number suggests a closed club face. A value of 0 degrees represents a square club face aligned with the target line.

What is club path and why is it important?

Club path refers to the direction in which you are swinging the club. A positive club path indicates an in-to-out swing , while a negative club path suggests an out-to-in swing . It influences the shape of your shots, with a positive club path often producing a draw and a negative club path resulting in a fade or slice.

How does impact location affect my shots?

Impact location refers to the position on the club face where you make contact with the ball. Striking the ball at the sweet spot ( centered contact ) is ideal, while deviations from the center can affect shot shape. A strike towards the heel can cause a fade, while a strike towards the toe can result in a draw.

What does attack angle and low point indicate?

Attack angle measures the vertical direction of the club head at impact. A negative attack angle means the club is moving downward, while a positive attack angle indicates an upward movement. Low point refers to the moment in your swing when you reach the lowest point. These measurements have implications for different types of shots and help optimize ball contact.

How can understanding Trackman data improve my game?

By analyzing key Trackman numbers, you can gain a better understanding of your golf swing and make informed decisions to improve your performance. Understanding the face angle, club path, impact location, attack angle, and low point can help you shape your shots, optimize ball contact, and make intentional adjustments to enhance your ball flight.

Should I consult with a Trackman coach for guidance?

Yes, consulting with a Trackman coach is highly recommended. They can provide specific guidance tailored to your swing and help you interpret and analyze your Trackman data effectively. A professional coach can assist you in making the necessary adjustments and improvements based on the insights provided by the Trackman measurements.

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Trackman – what is club path.

Prior to recent research, the golf world believed the club face curved the ball and the path created the start line of our shots. However, thanks to Trackman, they found this to be incorrect! In the golfing world, it was like saying the world is round instead of flat.

The new findings have found that the club path actually determines the curvature of our shots whilst club face is a lot more prevalent for the initial starting direction of our shots. As the slogan now goes, “The face starts it, the path bends it”

The actual definition of the club path is “ The in-to-out or out-to-in movement of the club head’s geometric center at the time of maximum compression.”

In other words, club path is normally referred to as being into out swing, known as a positive number for a right handed golfer  or out to in which would show as a negative number for the right handed golfer

The holy grail for most amateur golfers is a “draw shot”. To do this we have to create an in to out club path. The optimal club path depends on what ball flight a player likes to see. The higher the club path is relative to zero, the more the ball will potentially curve.

This bodes the discussion for our next blog which ball flight is more efficient for the level of golfer that I am currently and how do I achieve this specific club movement.

Deciding on our intention for the outcome, what we aim to achieve is half the battle of hitting solid golf shots. Once that decision is made, it is much easier to build a golf swing that repeats and produces the shot patterns that we would like to see.

Club path for most golfers is one of the most consistent parts of one swing. However if you come in and your club path is not what you would like it to be, book a lesson with myself or one of our other Golf Room instructors and we would be happy to help you build your ideal club path.

Have a great week and I hope to see you in the Golf Room working on your game

Mitch Farrer – TGR Instructor 

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Most golfers think that the guys on the PGA Tour hit the ball incredibly long.  And I suppose they hit it relatively far, but nearly the distances that the public thinks.

I think the average student that I ask tells me that a tour player hits a 6 iron 220 yards.  And it just isn’t true….well at least not on average.  They think that a drives are always over 320, which they are not – not even close.

Check out the actual averages from the PGA Tour for the entire year:

Now this is not to say that a tour player can’t ramp it up another gear if they felt like showing off.  I’m sure most of them can squeeze out 10 extra yards on every club on this chart.

But mostly, when playing for the money, they don’t.  Because winning money, titles, and shooting low scores doesn’t involve all that much ‘power’ hitting, especially with the irons.

Instead, it’s mostly situational.  If I have a front pin with a hard green, I would go at it harder with the shorter club, maybe a 150 yard pitching wedge.  This is so I could hit it higher and spin it more, enabling me to access that tough pin position.

The average drive on tour last year was 289 yards.  I’d estimate the average tour player will hit their basic solid drive between 295-310 under neutral conditions.  But you also have to add in the slight mishits, the rainy days, and the balls that land in the rough.

Official driving distance is only measured on two holes per round, which means you might get 50-60 shots in a year.  A former tour pro told me he hit a tree branch off the tee that knocked his ball down, and it affected his average for the whole year by 15 yards.  This put him near the bottom of the pack.

I blame it on TV coverage.  How many times do you see TV reporting driving distance on an uphill into the wind hole?  A good drive might only yield 250 – and that isn’t exciting.

But then on the next hole when they come back down the hill with the wind behind them, they all go 340.

What about this awesome drive from Dustin Johnson in Hawaii that everyone was talking about:

So the drive went 433 yards.  But he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll.  That’s 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340-345.

And this is about DJ’s average ‘big’ drive when he swings harder, at around 125 mph.  Maybe 126 or 127.

So next time the announcer says that someone is hitting a 5 iron from 223, keep in mind that it’s mostly conditions, and note where the ball actually carries.

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Swing Plane

Swing plane is the vertical angle between the ground and the circle that the club head travels on during the bottom portion of the swing arc

Swing plane is similar to what instructors refer to on video as “shaft plane”, but shaft plane uses a 2D camera image at one point (frame) in time.

Swing plane uses the three-dimensional position of the club head from approximately knee high to knee high on the downswing.

Shorter/higher lofted clubs generally result in a higher (more vertical) swing plane since the golf must stand closer to the ball and the plane the golfer swings on is typically more vertical with these shorter clubs. The swing plane number may closely resemble the lie angle of the golf club, but since swing plane measures the club’s movement over a period in time it is not recommended to use the value to fit for lie angle.

A golfer’s height and dynamic posture will have an effect on swing plane. A driver typically has a swing plane between 45-50 degrees.

Technical Definition:

Swing Plane – The vertical angle of the plane relative to the horizon defined by the club head’s center of gravity movement prior to impacting the golf ball. Remark: TrackMan uses the club head’s position data from both before and after impact to establish the SWING PLANE. Typically, the position data consists of a range from 2½ feet (75cm) before impact to 2½ feet (75 cm) after impact. TrackMan’s sample rate is approximately 20,000 Hz.

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• Scratch of Better = 48.1 degrees
• 5 HCP = 48.5 degrees
• 10 HCP = 48.9 degrees
• Average Golfer (14.5) = 49.0 degrees
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• Scratch or Better = 46.8 degrees
• 5 HCP = 47.2 degrees
• 10 HCP = 48.4 degrees
• 15 HCP = 47.6 degrees

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I would like data for irons as well.

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