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The Vienna sewers offer an unexpected chance to relive a piece of cinematic history. The Third Man Tour lets you follow in the actual underground footsteps of Harry Lime.

• Lovely little tour with anecdotes & humour
• Also learn about modern sewage management
• Run by the municipal sewer authorities
• Very authentic feeling down below
• Opens May to October in 2024
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Chasing Harry Lime

(Guess who ran down these steps?)

The movies have given us a fair few iconic sequences. And one of them plays out in the sewers of post-WWII Vienna: Harry Lime’s desperate attempt to avoid his pursuers near the end of The Third Man .

The screen fills with tunnels and tension, distant echoes, dark shadows, and rushing water.

Amazingly, they produced this extended scene using clever editing and just two rather atmospheric locations down in the local sewer system.

Over 70 years later, and you can visit both places on the Third Man tour offered by Vienna’s own Wien Kanal sewer authorities, who manage just under 2,500km of city sewers.

(Jürgen Czernohorszky, city councillor responsible for climate issues, is taken on the Third Man Tour. The overflow area is instantly recognisable from the Third Man sequence; press photo © PID/VOTAVA)

The tour begins at the very same entrance Harry Lime dropped into. At the bottom, the sewer team guide explains some of the work of today’s sewer management.

Very short walks down more steps and along tunnels then take you to the two actual film locations:

First, the overflow chamber , where a film projected onto the wall reveals various TV and film productions shot in that very place

You move around the same walkways the actors used, and the location feels unchanged since Harry Lime teetered along the edges of the overflow. Close your eyes and you can almost hear the calls of the police.

(Where the Wienfluss emerges at the Stadtpark ; you stand about a kilometer further down the tunnel on the tour)

Second, the Wienfluss (River Wien) where it runs underground, home to the wide, open tunnel scenes

This is history made real.

Quite apart from the Third Man connection, you find yourself in a giant broad underground channel and cavern with tall ceilings, the river walled over some 1km in each direction. And all built well over 100 years ago. Little thuds and echoes add a certain frisson to the experience.

The tour lasts around 45 minutes and is really quite fun. The sewer team throw out a host of anecdotes laced with plenty of Viennese humour.

(Regulation of the Wienfluss on Karlsplatz around 1900, photographed by Verlag resp. k. u. k. Universitätsbuchhandlung R. Lechner (Wilh. Müller), produced by Verlag d. Vereines v. gold. Kreuze. with Josef Löwy as reproduction technician and Friedrich Jasper as printer; Wien Museum Inv.-Nr. 231173; excerpt reproduced with permission under the terms of the CC0 licence)

Contrary to expectations, the smell is not that bad, either. Not particularly fragrant at times, but the sewers involve plenty of natural water so it’s little worse than a somewhat stale basement. And the Wienfluss channel, for example, is a waterway, so perfectly clean.

You don’t do too much walking: just steps up and down and along short, flat walkway areas and tunnels. These can be a touch damp with one or two darker areas (you wear a hard hat with a lamp, but I didn’t need the latter).

Check the safety precautions and house rules, of course, before taking the tour.

Tickets and tips

(The meeting point is clearly marked)

You buy your ticket at the kiosk near the tour entrance (€10 for an adult at the time of writing and well worth it).

However, you should reserve a place in advance: tour slots fill up, and you may well be disappointed if you try to get in on the day. The official website has an online tool which gets you a reservation number and email you can show at the kiosk.

In 2024, tours took place from May 2nd to October 31st, Thursdays to Sundays, with an English-language tour at 3pm.

Vienna provided almost all the settings for The Third Man, of course. I have an extensive location guide (with photos) should you wish to see more than the sewers. And we have the lovely Third Man museum , too, with its myriads of memorabilia.

How to get there

The tour start and ticket counter are at the northwest corner of the small Girardi park that adjoins Karlsplatz. Look for the large red “3. Mann Tour” lettering opposite Café Museum (one of Vienna’s traditional coffee houses).

By coincidence, the park is named after an actor: Alexander Girardi (1850-1918), who performed both on film and stage. His statue lies close to the tour start.

Karlsplatz is easy to reach on the edge of the old town and a quick walk from the State Opera House , for example.

Subway: a stop on the U1, U2 and U4 lines

Tram: the Oper/Karlsplatz tram stop has the D, 1, 2, 71 and 62 tram lines

Address: Girardipark, Karlsplatz, 1010 Vienna

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The "Third Man Tour" is a popular tourist attraction.

The Third Man Tour is an unforgettable way to experience the world of the film classic "The Third Man". Seven metres below ground level, visitors receive information about Vienna's sewer system and work in the sewers. Equipped with a safety helmet and a headlamp, you will explore Vienna’s underground.

The original spiral staircase from the film leads you down into one of the oldest parts of Vienna’s sewer system. The "cholera sewers", running parallel to the River Wien on its left and right, were built in the 1830s and have remained virtually unchanged to this day.

Wien Kanal and the "Third Man Tour" have a long-standing cooperation with many businesses: Time Travel Vienna , Vienna Tourist Board , viennatour.at , Café Museum and SchokoMuseum Wien .

Working at an iconic film location

The overflow chamber - one of the original locations of the film classic

The chase scene with Orson Welles as Harry Lime in the film "The Third Man" became world famous, and with it, Vienna’s sewer system. Today, Vienna’s sewer system is a modern wastewater management system that combines technological innovation with a long history.

The Austrian crime series "Inspector Rex" and " Kottan ermittelt " both filmed episodes here, and world-famous Austrian singer Falco shot his video for "Jeanny" in the catacombs of the sewer system.

State-of-the-art projection and lighting technology will transport you into the world of sewerage workers, film agents, smugglers and spies. The new technology will make your visit to Vienna’s sewers an even more authentic experience.

The spectacular vaulted covering of the River Wien

At the end of the tour, you can enjoy a unique view of the River Wien below ground. Below the Naschmarkt market, it flows through an enormous subterranean tunnel whose impressive dimensions are illuminated with floodlights.

Other parts of the tour

In addition to the sewer tour, the Third Man Tour includes entry to the " Third Man Museum " in Vienna’s fourth district. The Third Man Walk of " Vienna Walks & Talks " follows the film classic above ground. You can also watch the original film in the old Burgkino cinema . With the Vienna Card, you will get reduced admission at the other tour partners.

A film score becomes a classic

An award-winning classic set in Vienna

The world-famous "Harry Lime Theme", also known as "Third Man Theme", composed by the Viennese artist Anton Karas , was number 1 of the US charts for 11 weeks. The Third Man premiered in London on 2 September 1949. Director Carol Reed was awarded the Palme d’Or in Cannes. On 10 March 1950, the film was first shown in Austria, in the Apollo cinema in Vienna. That same month, the film received an Academy Award for Best Cinematography (Black-and-White). In the 1950s, it was only shown in the dubbed German version, and it disappeared from the Austrian screens in the second half of the 1960s. In 1979, the original English version of The Third Man was shown in Vienna for the first time. In 1980, it started playing at Burgkino , and it has lost none of its attraction to this day.

Film synopsis

Penicillin smuggler Harry Lime flees underground.

It is February 1947. In the bombed-out ruins of Vienna, misery and the black market reign supreme. The American pulp Western writer Holly Martins comes to Vienna to meet his old childhood friend Harry Lime. However, he learns that Harry died in a traffic accident. At his funeral he meets Major Calloway, the head of the British military police, who laconically informs him that Harry was one of Vienna’s most dangerous smugglers.

Holly decides to investigate his friend’s death and clear his name. On his search for the truth he meets Harry Lime’s friends and his girlfriend Anna Schmid . He gradually becomes more and more embroiled in the intrigue surrounding Harry.

Harry Lime fleeing through Vienna’s sewers

Harry, in the meantime, has gone into hiding. He had only faked his death so he could continue to ply his flourishing black market trade with diluted penicillin in the Soviet-controlled sector.

The sewers allow him to move through the city unhindered. After being given away by a lit window, Harry manages to escape through the sewers. Major Calloway realises he buried the wrong man.

After a confrontation between Harry Lime and Holly Martins on the Giant Ferris Wheel, Harry finally meets his death in the dark, dank underground of Vienna. The film ends as it began: at Harry’s funeral on Vienna Central Cemetery.

Interesting film facts

Sewer brigade, 1945

• In the exciting sewer chase , we see members of the sewer brigade and workers of what would later become Wien Kanal .
• The sewer scenes for the film were all shot in one location. The excellent camera work makes it seem like different locations were used.

The entrance in Friedrichstrasse at the "Day of the German Police" 1939

• Vienna's sewer system is 2,400 kilometres long - approximately the distance from Vienna to Cairo.
• Two thirds of the locations in Vienna still exist: In addition to the Giant Ferris Wheel and Harry’s house , you can also visit the grave at Vienna Central Cemetery .
• Paul Hörbiger did not speak a word of English. An interpreter had to be hired to say his lines so he could repeat them.
• The streets are wet in most scenes, although it was not raining. The fire brigade would wet the streets to make the shadows stand out better.
• The Third Man Museum is the only museum worldwide dedicated to a single film.
• The actor Orson Welles was doubled several times by an extra from Wien Film and not, as often claimed, by a Viennese butcher.

Still from the death scene of the classic "The Third Man"

• Many scenes show Vienna although they were filmed at the studio in London .
• Little Hansel got his role by chance when he visited his father, a lighting technician, on set.

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This tour follows Carol Reed’s Oscar-winning thriller, filmed in Vienna in 1948. The tour starts by descending the original film steps into Vienna’s underworld. Thanks to modern projection and lighting technology, you encounter the channel diggers, film agents, smugglers and spies, and follow in the footsteps of Orson Welles, aka Harry Lime. To get into the right mood, the original version of the film is shown every Tuesday, Friday and Sunday in Vienna’s Burg Kino.

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Till Lindemann is leaving Rammstein behind in 2024.

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From a two-tournament week to a two-man tournament. That’s the transition to this week’s Zurich Classic of New Orleans.

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.

Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?

My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

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If you are considering this on the 2015 June Baltic cruise on Voyager; my suggestion is don't. There is so much to do in St. Petersburg and although a train is one of my favorite ways to travel the time would be far better spent in St. P.

Thanks for the advice. Yes, this would be on the Voyager during the 2015 season but not yet sure exactly which cruise.

We did the Moscow excursion "on a different luxury line", but from your brief description it sounds very much like the same trip, so I will operate on that assumption. It is a VERY long day! We left the ship at 5:30 AM and returned at 12:30 AM. The highspeed train trip is comfortable, and while they call it "Business Class" it does not compare well to the equivalent class on say Rail Europe. When we did it in 2011, we did have highspeed both ways, and the trip back seemed much longer as the adrenaline and excitement had worn off!:D

Moscow itself is not that terribly different from any other big city in the world, but this Cold War kid never thought he would ever stand in Red Square, never mind walk the grounds of The Kremlin, or tour The Kremlin Palace, or see (but not visit) Lenin's Tomb, or visit The Armoury. But he did, and he loved every minute of it! Yes, it is a long day, and you barely scratch a scratch on the surface, but it is worth it. There is a tremendous amount to see in St. Petersburg, but every Baltic cruise goes to St. Petersburg, so you can go back if you choose to. Not every cruiseline offers you the chance to see Moscow.

I have not personally done this tour, but our last time in St Petersburg, the private guide that we hired for a day was leading the regent tour to Moscow on the high speed train the next day. He said it was way better than the previous alternative, which was flying to Moscow and back. He said that you actually got to Moscow faster because you didn't have to deal with airline checkin etc. it did seem like a very long day to me, and there is so much to see and do in st. Petersburg that I didn't consider doing it.

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We toured to Moscow from St. Petersburg via the hi-speed SAPSAN train last September, from a Baltic cruise on the Oceania Marina. You need to have a two-night, three day port call in St. Petersburg to take this tour because the tour typically leaves the ship around 5:00 - 5:30 AM and doesn't return until after midnight the next day. We didn't take the ship's tour; we made private arrangements with TravelAllRussia for three days of touring, the first and third days in St. Petersburg and the second day the tour to Moscow by train. Our cost for the private tour for three days was about the same as what the ship charged for the excursion to Moscow alone. There are a number of private tour agencies that operate in St. Petersburg and offer the Moscow train tours; we would strongly recommend them over the ship's tours.

All three days had private guides with car and driver. The second day, the driver picked us up at the ship and took us to the train, but we were alone on the train, and met in Moscow by the guide on the station platform. After our tour and dinner, we were brought back to the train and after the return train trip met by the driver and taken back to the ship. Because you are alone on the train you must have your own Russian visas.

If this is your first visit to St. Petersburg, I would agree there is much more to see there. We found Moscow somewhat a disappointment, particularly Red Square. The Kremlin and the cathedral in Red Square were also worth seeing. But the best thing we saw was the Moscow subway! I worked for the Washington Metro system back in the 1980s as it grew from 40 to 80 miles and although I was in the computer area, I learned a lot about the challenges of running a subway system. We used the Moscow system to get across the city from where we had dinner to the train station, and I was amazed at the cleanliness', speed of operation, the short headways maintained, and the courtesy of everyone involved. A very impressive experience!

We had been to St. Petersburg before, and so had the time to take a day and go to Moscow. Also, I really like trains, and the SAPSAN is a German train set running on Russian rails. Seats are like first class domestic air, spacious but not too plush or comfortable, but with enough room. Not too much recline, and almost 8 hours on the train in two shots is a lot for an old man. They come through and sell drinks, candy, etc. but the sellers don't speak English and no one around us helped, so we had just poor coffee once coming, and brought stuff with us for the trip back. Not too much to see from the train either, particularly on the return when it is night the whole way.

If you decide to go, take a private tour and avoid the overly expensive ship's tour. I'm glad we did it, but wouldn't bother to repeat the tour; we've seen Moscow.

Thanks so much to all of you for the thorough and thought insight. Yhe information you have provided is most helpful.

countflorida: Your detailed post is very helpful. We are not quite ready for a Baltic cruise but should do so within a year. Time enough to do our pre travel research, bookings and visa gathering.:) Thank you!

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.   Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?   My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

I did this on Seabourn. IMO DONT. Take Aeroflop (er Aeroflot). The train has non folding seats where you are literally knee to knee with your fellow passenger (facing each other). Further they don't believe in air conditioning. It's also the worlds slowed bullet train. I think I would have found more enjoyment wandering around the St. Petersburg and Moscow airports.

Countflorida,

This is a little off topic,, however we had planned a river cruise in Russia but decided we would rather stay on land and have booked about two weeks with Travel-All-Russia using the private guide and driver. I'm curious as to how you found them as a tour company.

The guides they provided were fine. We had a different guide each of the days in St. Petersburg, but both were flexible, pleasant, knowledgeable and spoke English very well, as did the guide in Moscow, incidentally. She was a bit aloof, distant, not too friendly, but otherwise fine. In fact, she was the one who suggested taking the Metro, which unexpectedly became one of the highlights of the Moscow excursion. If I have a complaint with AllTravelRussia, it is with their plan and its execution (more later).

I had requested emphasis on World War II (in Russia, the Great Patriotic War) sites and info. In scheduling us, they weren't careful about dates and a couple of the sites we wanted to see were scheduled on the third day, after we'd been to Moscow. But both sites were closed that day of the week, and that info was readily available, right on web sites describing them. Also, the included meals (lunches in St. Pete, dinner in Moscow) were not what we asked for: light meals with some choices, so we could avoid things we didn't like and choose things we did like. My request was ignored; we were given full Russian meals with a fixed menu, no choice. On the first day, a fish dish was the entre, but I am allergic to fish. Fortunately, I had the e-mail I'd sent with me and showed it to the guide, and she was able to change my entre to chicken, which was very good actually. But we didn't want a 3-4 course lunches or dinner (in Moscow). We had the guide drop the lunch the third day, although we never got any credit or refund. But, particularly in contrast to the ship's tours, the prices were so reasonable we didn't worry too much about it.

The people who were on the ship's tour to Moscow saw us boarding the same train for which they were forced to queue up and wait on the way back, and asked us what we had done. I was candid and open so they were not happy when I explained what we had arranged and particularly what it had cost. Also, when we returned to the ship, we found they had laid on a late supper for those who had gone to Moscow, so up we went and had something. Well, it turns out the late supper was supposed to be just for those on the ship's tour, but we and others on 'independent' tours, there were a dozen or more of us, crashed the party, actually got there first, and they didn't realize it until the larger group arrived and there weren't enough tables/places set. By that time, the 'independents' had all gotten served and were eating; what could they do?

A couple from the larger group sat down with us and asked us about our tour, and they were the ones I told about our arrangement and its cost. They turned to others who’d been with them and announced the details, loudly enough so the whole room heard, which started a lot of bitching and complaining. I gathered they weren't very happy with the ship's tour to begin with, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. We finished up and beat it out of there, but overheard later that one of the excursion staff came to check on something and ran into a real mess. I caught a cold on the trip, which forced me to bed the second day following in Tallinn, so by the time we reappeared we heard about the contretemps' but apparently no one recalled who started it, thankfully.

Because of what happened to us, I would probably not use AllTravelRussia if I were to go again, or if I did, I would be sure to get confirmation of every detail of the tour. They do have good reviews generally, and we were certainly helped by their visa department and liked the guides and drivers. Their weakness, I say now with full 20:20 hindsight, is that once the sales person who plans the tour, sells it to you and collects your money, he (or she) transfers the plan to their Russia office for implementation; there is no follow-up to make sure it gets done right. And that is where our problems arose; we paid for a custom tour but got a standard package with a few destinations switched, and no one checked them out, even to see when they were open the day we were scheduled to go. If you check every detail that’s important to you, it should be OK, but that’s a hell of a way to have to do business, in my opinion.

Thank you for the 20/20 hindsight observation on your Russian tour operator, and better priced than the ship's excursion cost.

Thanks very much for the feedback.

We had the same experience as you so far as price. We originally booked a Viking Cruise but, hearing some things about the river cruises that made us unhappy, looked into other options. T-A-R cost the same or less than a cruise and had us in hotels for 11 days. We opted for the private tour. They have three tour levels, based on hotels. We originally opted for the four star as it did not cost much more than the three star hotels. Finally we decided to throw it all in and upgraded to five star. In Moscow we will be at the newly opened Kempinsky which is two blocks from Red Square. In St. Petersburg it is the Grand Hotel Europe, one of the most vaunted luxury hotels in Russia. Location is important for us as the tours use up only part of the day so being in the center of everything for our independent touring is important. As with many other cities, the less you pay, the farther out of the center of town you are.

We have been working with our salesman in D.C. and he seems to get back to us with the changes we want. He recently returned from Russia so is up on everything. When I asked they said they paid the full TA commission if I wanted so I got my usual TA on board so he is watching our back and giving us that extra level of comfort. He also set up our air, which I know pays him little or nothing, and got us business class for much less than T-A-R wanted for economy, though it took working for a while with a consolidator. He's happy to get his 10 percent on this trip without having booked it. He also took care of the trip insurance. We've been doing a lot of research on the CC sister site Trip Advisor and will write a report there. We will, I guess, become a source of info for CC members after having spent 5 days in Moscow and 6 in SP.

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Anybody considering a day trip to Moscow from St. Petersburg on the Sapsan may want to look at our travelogue filled with pictures.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1927687

Very informative. Thanks dor sharing. Jeff

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This 7 Realms Ultimate tour of Moscow can be 3-Day tour, with 7 hours each day, or 4-Day tour, with 5 hours each day. 

This bespoke history-culture-art itinerary is the ultimate guide of Moscow with authentic Russian, Ukranian and Georgian cuisines along the way. 

Ready for adventure?

Highlights of  7 Realms tour of Moscow

• Explore Kremlin , the oldest and the largest fortress in Russia, a UNESCO World Natural and Cultural Heritage;
• Learn the stories of two Russian paradoxes –  Tsar Bell and Tsar Cannon , both the largest in the world;
• Walk the oldest streets in Moscow  and observe the ancient architecture of Moskovy;
• Discover Kitay Gorod , which used to be home to the first skyscraper and the first typography in Moscow, as well as the biggest pharmacy in Europe;
• Dive into off the beaten path of Moscow – Zamoskvorechye  and get impressed with a dazzling mix of hidden architectural gems and art masterpieces of Russia;
• Visit Tretyakov gallery  that reflects 1000 year-old history, art and culture of Russia;
• Explore the iconic sights of legendary Kolomenskoe  including the Palace of Tsar Alexey Mikhailovich, which is considered the eighth wonder of the world;
• Get scenic panoramic views of Tsaritsino park , the most romantic park of Moscow;
• Admire “Russian Gothic” of the Grand Palace in Tsaritsino , and enjoy the picturesque landscape with fairy-tale bridges;
• Have fun in Gorky Park , which is even the #1 park of Russia;
• Meet locals and catch up with local art trends in Winzavod Art Center , the oldest and most respectable art gallery in Moscow;
• And, of course,  try Russian pelemeni, Soviet vareniki or bliny, Ukranian borsch, Georgian Khachapuri , as well traditional hospitality, coziest and amazingly beautiful interior of the best local restaurants.

12-14 th  centuries

Red Square, the Kremlin, Kitay Gorod + Russian traditional lunch

We are going to see the cradle of Russian history and track the development of Moscow.

The residence of Dukes, Tsars, Emperors, Supreme rulers, Presidents will surprise you with its cathedrals, largest in the world Tsar Cannon and Tsar Bell, as long as the Armory with personal belongings of Great Tsars.

Highlights:

Red square tour.

• Walk-through  the Resurrection Gate  and don’t forget to flip a coin so you’ll be sure to come back one day!
• Visit the world’s famous  Kazan Cathedral ;
• See the  State Department Store  (GUM), once the Upper Trading Stalls, which were built over a century ago and still operating!
• Admire the lovely  St. Basil’s Cathedral , built to commemorate the capture of the cities Kazan and Astrakhan. After construction of the cathedral, the poor architect, Postnik Yakovlev, was blinded by Ivan the Terrible, forbidding him from replicating such a beauty ever again;
• Walk by  Lobnoye Mesto  (literally meaning the “forehead place”, or “Place of the Skulls”), once Ivan the Terrible’s stage for religious ceremonies, speeches, and important events;
• As well as  Lenin’s Mausoleum, GUM,  Manege Square, the Monument after Marshal Zhukov, Alexander Garden, Grotto monument, The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, the Obelisk to Romanov royal dynasty.

Kremlin Tour

• The Cathedral of Twelve Apostles  forms the grand entrance to the luxurious Grand Kremlin Palace.
• The Tsar Bell , the largest bell in the world, and  Cannon , the largest bombard by caliber in the world.
• The Ivan the Great Bell Tower  marks the exact centre of Moscow and resembles a burning candle.
• The Cathedral of the Assumption , place of coronation of the grand princes and tsars as well as the burial place of metropolitans and patriarchs.
• The Cathedral of the Annunciation , the private church of Russian grand princes and tsars for domestic and family ceremonies.
• The Cathedral of the Archangel , the necropolis of the Moscow dynasty of Ruriks and first Romanov tsars. The history of the necropolis started in 1340 with Ivan I, the great grandfather of Ivan the Terrible.
• The Armory  originated as the royal arsenal in 1508 and boasting the richest collection of the works of Russian and foreign decorative and applied art of 4th-20th centuries.
• +  The procession of the equestrian and pedestrian guards of the President’s regiment  (April to October).

Kitay Gorod Tour

Kitay Gorod is the oldest part of Moscow after the Kremlin, emerged in the 14th century due to the expansion of the boundaries of the Kremlin.:

Experience Kitay Gorod with its it’s charming one-of-a-kind places, many with great historical significance.

There are 4 monasteries, 24 churches, cathedrals, and 8 chapels in the area of Kitay gorod. We’ll see some of them.

You will also see:

• First typography in Russia , founded in 1553;
• First “skyscraper” of Moscow , 5-storeyed building built in 1876;
• English Old Court on Varvarka street , the former home of the first foreign representation in Moscow (1553);

The Trinity monastery on Ilyinka  – Apartment house-monastery of the Holy Trinity St. Sergius Lavra (“Trinity Compound”) which is nowadays an object of cultural heritage of regional significance (1630s).

+ Traditional Russian food with a great buffet bar. 

Eat as much as you like! :) Hearty lunch in Russian traditional restaurant, with old Russian traditions, bright decor and amazing authentic food in historical Tverskaya street, the main street of Moscow.

14 th -17 th  centuries

Zamoskvorechye & Kolomenskoe Museum-Reserve

Highlights :, zamoskvorechye tour.

• Explore vibrant Zamoskvorechye neighborhood full of life and character, which locals consider an epicenter of architectural masterpieces and ancient cathedrals, modern street art and best coffee in the town – Ultimate Russian Culture Experience!
• Soak in the beauty of the  greatest Russian masterpieces;
• Explore the  treasures of Russian art and architecture , ancient and modern;
• Get immersed into  Russian history ;
• Track the  origins of Moscow ;
• Experience Moscow’s premier art gallery –  Tretyakov Gallery;
• Admire the impressive architectural styles of  Russian cathedrals and temples.

Kolomenskoe Tour

Discover the oldest settlement of Moscow belonging to the Stone Age!

Kolomenskoye is a Natural Landscape Museum-Reserve in the open air: Ethnographic art, historical and architectural complex with the existing facilities of the medieval farm, stables, a forge, an apiary, a watermill.

You will see:

• Palace of Tsar Alexey Mikhailovich , initially built in 17th century and consisted of 270 rooms Nowadays considered the 8th wonder of the world by Russians;
• The Church of the Ascension  – a UNESCO monument and a masterpiece of Russian and world architecture.
• Palace Pavillion  that served as a tea house or home theater, the main façade is decorated with Doric portico and two lioness sculptures;
• Front Gate Complex  that was the main entrance to the summer residence of the Tsar for distinguished guests;
• Church of Beheading of St. John the Forerunner  that Ivan the Terrible for holiday worships and his birthday feasts;
• As well as royal  Food Yard, Peter I’s House, Household structure (Mead Brewery), The Streltsy Guard-houses, Moss Tower and the Memorial Pole.

+  Lunch in Korchma, Ukranian traditional restaurant.  

Dynamic interior with authentic decorations and festive ethnic Russian & Ukranian traditions in one place! Your lunch will include:

• Lean sorrel borsch
• Podolsky Salad,  incredibly juicy and crispy salad with cucumbers, tomatoes, radishes, cauliflower, carrots and greens;
• Zrazy with mushrooms and spinach
• Chicken soup with noodles
• Spring salad with cucumbers, radish, eggs, green onions, lettuce and mayonnaise
• Chicken schnitzel with stewed cabbage

18 th -21 st  centuries

Tsaritsino, Gorky Park, Winzavod Art Center

Tsaritsino tour.

Tsaritsyno is the monument of the so-called “Russian Gothic”, unique in its style.

Enjoy the picturesque nature of the architectural ensemble, fairy bridges and castle, vintage terraces, statues, ponds and historical atmosphere! You will see:

• Palace of Catherine II , full of mysteries, gossips, intrigues and scandals;
• Famous Bazhenov’s  Bridges  that are distinguished by unique artistic features that fully represented the architect’s “theater architecture”;
• The cascade of  Tsaritsynsky ponds  formed during 16th-18th centuries;
• Magic  Slopes  with beautiful landscapes that became a natural backdrop for open-air theater during Catherine II reign;
• The Ruined Tower of Tsaritsyno  offers amazing panoramic views from its observation deck;
• Temple of Ceres  where the Empress rested and watched holiday hay celebrations;
• Tsaritsyno Fountain  with 3000 lights dancing polonaises and minuets in the evenings.

Gorky Park Tour

Gorky Park is Russia’s most popular park. It also features Europe’s largest skating rink with artificial ice in winter.

Discover Gorky Park from its early Soviet Communist history and hear the stories behind how it evolved to become the trendiest and hottest spot of Moscow.

Founded in 1923, the park has a lot to impress with:

• Rich Soviet past;
• Authentic local vibe;
• Garage Art Center,  founded by Dasha Zhukova, the wife of Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich;
• Gorgeous nature landscape; 
• Yoga and dance classes;
• A myriad of local cozy cafes , street food kiosks, posh restaurants and coffee places with hot pastry.

What you get:

• + A friend in Moscow.
• + Private & customized Moscow tour.
• + An exciting pastime, not just boring history lessons.
• + An authentic experience of local life.
• + Flexibility during the walking tour: changes can be made at any time to suit individual preferences.
• + Amazing deals for breakfast, lunch, and dinner in the very best cafes & restaurants. Discounts on weekdays (Mon-Fri).
• + A photo session amongst spectacular Moscow scenery that can be treasured for a lifetime.
• + Good value for souvenirs, taxis, and hotels.
• + Expert advice on what to do, where to go, and how to make the most of your time in Moscow.

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